Dura-Ace R9200

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gSporco wrote:
Fri Jan 28, 2022 2:18 am
ipenguinking wrote:
Thu Jan 27, 2022 8:34 pm
I just received email from Competitive Cyclist that my R9270 C50 wheels are shipped. I placed order when new DA was introduced last August.
Please post actual weight when you get them.. with valves and stem as well if you plan to run tubeless

Thanks!
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Shimano site indicates 9270 C50 wheels came with E-Thru Axle technology and the 'axle fixing method' is 12mm E-Thru. Can someone tell me what does this mean? Do I need different thru-axle to fit these wheels on my frame (142x12) and Enve road fork? Both already came with 'factory' TA. Thanks.

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ipenguinking wrote:Shimano site indicates 9270 C50 wheels came with E-Thru Axle technology and the 'axle fixing method' is 12mm E-Thru. Can someone tell me what does this mean? Do I need different thru-axle to fit these wheels on my frame (142x12) and Enve road fork? Both already came with 'factory' TA. Thanks.
Every TA that’s 12mm and fit for your frame will do.
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Did someone try running big cassettes with Dura Ace/Ultegra RD? 11-39 Rotor, 10-44 XPLR, 10-45 Shimano MTB
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by BigBoyND

Rotor 11-36 looks good on paper, too. As light as R9200 11-30 but slightly taller gearing than 11-34, only for the top two gears.

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carborush wrote:
Thu Jan 27, 2022 11:51 am
LOWIEV wrote:
Thu Jan 27, 2022 10:55 am
ryanw wrote:
Thu Jan 27, 2022 10:40 am
No. Rotor Aldhu carbon and Road spindle still heavier with a P2M.
But it is still ligter than the standard DA crankset?
Yes but only 20gr. So weight gains with rotor and p2m is marginal compared to DA.
Considering 4iii or stages left DA cranck as the cheaper solution.
Problem is that these are not yet in stock for 12 sp at the moment.
You can send your crank for factory install, I did it with my 9200 left crank (at 4iiii) and it took about two weeks overall.
The readings are very close to my Neo 2T once calibrated

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TurboKoo wrote:
Fri Jan 28, 2022 6:19 am
ipenguinking wrote:Shimano site indicates 9270 C50 wheels came with E-Thru Axle technology and the 'axle fixing method' is 12mm E-Thru. Can someone tell me what does this mean? Do I need different thru-axle to fit these wheels on my frame (142x12) and Enve road fork? Both already came with 'factory' TA. Thanks.
Every TA that’s 12mm and fit for your frame will do.
E-Thru is Shimano's tool-less thru axle design which has a cammed lever that works like a traditional QR to lock the axle in place. While the diameter of the thru axles are the same, I think Shimano e-thru axles have a 1.5 mm thread pitch so if that is different than your frames current thru-axles, then the E-Thru would not be compatible.

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ms6073 wrote:
Fri Jan 28, 2022 4:56 pm
TurboKoo wrote:
Fri Jan 28, 2022 6:19 am
ipenguinking wrote:Shimano site indicates 9270 C50 wheels came with E-Thru Axle technology and the 'axle fixing method' is 12mm E-Thru. Can someone tell me what does this mean? Do I need different thru-axle to fit these wheels on my frame (142x12) and Enve road fork? Both already came with 'factory' TA. Thanks.
Every TA that’s 12mm and fit for your frame will do.
E-Thru is Shimano's tool-less thru axle design which has a cammed lever that works like a traditional QR to lock the axle in place. While the diameter of the thru axles are the same, I think Shimano e-thru axles have a 1.5 mm thread pitch so if that is different than your frames current thru-axles, then the E-Thru would not be compatible.

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But mounting the tire with TA that works with the frame should be ok right? Just as TurboKoo said.

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12mm x 1.5mm pitch is the most common TA thread.

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IanisCercariolo wrote:
Fri Jan 28, 2022 9:13 am
carborush wrote:
Thu Jan 27, 2022 11:51 am
LOWIEV wrote:
Thu Jan 27, 2022 10:55 am
ryanw wrote:
Thu Jan 27, 2022 10:40 am
No. Rotor Aldhu carbon and Road spindle still heavier with a P2M.
But it is still ligter than the standard DA crankset?
Yes but only 20gr. So weight gains with rotor and p2m is marginal compared to DA.
Considering 4iii or stages left DA cranck as the cheaper solution.
Problem is that these are not yet in stock for 12 sp at the moment.
You can send your crank for factory install, I did it with my 9200 left crank (at 4iiii) and it took about two weeks overall.
The readings are very close to my Neo 2T once calibrated
Correct but where are you located ? Not so keen on sending my cranckarm from Belgium to Usa and back. ...
Is there a central EU install point for either 4iii or stages ?

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carborush wrote:
Fri Jan 28, 2022 7:48 pm
IanisCercariolo wrote:
Fri Jan 28, 2022 9:13 am
carborush wrote:
Thu Jan 27, 2022 11:51 am
LOWIEV wrote:
Thu Jan 27, 2022 10:55 am


But it is still ligter than the standard DA crankset?
Yes but only 20gr. So weight gains with rotor and p2m is marginal compared to DA.
Considering 4iii or stages left DA cranck as the cheaper solution.
Problem is that these are not yet in stock for 12 sp at the moment.
You can send your crank for factory install, I did it with my 9200 left crank (at 4iiii) and it took about two weeks overall.
The readings are very close to my Neo 2T once calibrated
Correct but where are you located ? Not so keen on sending my cranckarm from Belgium to Usa and back. ...
Is there a central EU install point for either 4iii or stages ?
4iiii will you send you a shipping label from Fedex when you order online

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IanisCercariolo wrote:
Fri Jan 28, 2022 9:13 am
carborush wrote:
Thu Jan 27, 2022 11:51 am
LOWIEV wrote:
Thu Jan 27, 2022 10:55 am
ryanw wrote:
Thu Jan 27, 2022 10:40 am
No. Rotor Aldhu carbon and Road spindle still heavier with a P2M.
But it is still ligter than the standard DA crankset?
Yes but only 20gr. So weight gains with rotor and p2m is marginal compared to DA.
Considering 4iii or stages left DA cranck as the cheaper solution.
Problem is that these are not yet in stock for 12 sp at the moment.
You can send your crank for factory install, I did it with my 9200 left crank (at 4iiii) and it took about two weeks overall.
The readings are very close to my Neo 2T once calibrated
Ok where in the world are you
4iii U.K. only have option for 9100 left hand at the moment
Unless you selected the 9100 and just sent in the 9200?
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ipenguinking wrote:
Fri Jan 28, 2022 5:00 pm
But mounting the tire with TA that works with the frame should be ok right? Just as TurboKoo said.
Yes, using your exising thru axle with the new wheels will work just fine.
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Has been asked a million times, sorry.
11-34 super record cassette compatible with DA9200?
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Sanders2177 wrote:
Fri Jan 28, 2022 9:30 pm
IanisCercariolo wrote:
Fri Jan 28, 2022 9:13 am
carborush wrote:
Thu Jan 27, 2022 11:51 am
LOWIEV wrote:
Thu Jan 27, 2022 10:55 am


But it is still ligter than the standard DA crankset?
Yes but only 20gr. So weight gains with rotor and p2m is marginal compared to DA.
Considering 4iii or stages left DA cranck as the cheaper solution.
Problem is that these are not yet in stock for 12 sp at the moment.
You can send your crank for factory install, I did it with my 9200 left crank (at 4iiii) and it took about two weeks overall.
The readings are very close to my Neo 2T once calibrated
Ok where in the world are you
4iii U.K. only have option for 9100 left hand at the moment
Unless you selected the 9100 and just sent in the 9200?
I'm in Switzerland and I saw the option for R9200 since November 2021, it seems available on the UK site too : https://4iiii.com/gb/products/pdp/left- ... y-install/

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