What’s your favorite saddle?

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Darceking
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Power saddle

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Mazza wrote:
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Had one similar to this for about 3 years. Cheap as chips and the only saddle I’m not even aware of when riding. Done Ventoux x3 and a few 100 milers on it.
From alibaba?
I had one many years ago, very lightweight but the cut out would pinch, my weight is at 69Kg. Maybe they’ve improved the material over time?


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coresare wrote:So far Shimano Pro Stealth
Same here.. just wish they have more of a lift at the end of the saddle to keep from sliding too far back on climbs


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Schadenfreude wrote:
Fri May 24, 2019 2:13 am
I thought I would give an update on the SQ Lab Ergowave 612, in case anyone has thought about trying it. I had chosen the 12cm Active version based on my sit bone width (~10cm) and the fitting guide on their website. However, I was getting some pressure on my left pubic ramus (I think around there), so I emailed SQ Labs for some advice. They forwarded my enquiry to the Australia Distributor, who then emailed me. The person I dealt with there was really cluey about the saddle and asked me a bit about the way I ride, etc. He then asked if my saddle was roughly at the same height as the tops of my bars, which was right (I don't have an aggresive position), so immediately he said I would need a wider version. So they asked me to send back the 12cm, and they sent out the 13cm version at no charge. After a 30km ride this morning, I can say there's no pain in the same area. It was a little hard on my left sit bone after a while, but I'll try it with different bibs and work out the best sitting spot and position of the saddle. It's really hard to work this out as it feels a little different to sitting on other saddles. However, I felt absolutely no pressure on the soft tissue or the boys, which has plagued me on pretty much all of the saddles I've tried (at least 8 now), and cutouts seem to cause me different issues. Also, with the elastomer, their instructions say to select the firmness based on your weight. I was between the soft and medium firmness elastomers, so the distributor suggested trying the soft one first, which seems to have worked out fine this morning

Anyways, if anyone was considering trying the Ergowave, perhaps it's best to contact the distributor for your country (available on their website) to get some advice on fitting and whether or not they would replace the saddle if it turned out to be the wrong width.
With an aggressive position (condsiderable drop) we tend to sit more on the pubic rami, since you ride a very upright position you rely on the widest part of the ischiatic tuberosity which is far back. The saddle wave was probably pushing you a bit forward since you didn't have enough support to sit like you would do in a chair, this is what you unconsciously look for when you ride your bike. About the pain in your left bone looks like you where falling to the left side and now you have to get used to have the right support, so I would say youre going to feel it for a while.

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bikeboy1tr wrote:
Wed Apr 24, 2019 10:39 pm
Ringo wrote:
Thu Apr 11, 2019 2:57 pm
@bikeboy1tr
The knock off has the half of the original’s rails. That’s why it mounts so easily.
I spoke to the seller/distributor and I send them photos and I measured the rails.
They said that rails were ok and they will adapt on the mount when torqued in the clamp.
I did it and everything went good.
I went for a ride and I need to adjust the nose because it’s little high. Other than that there’s no problem.
You all were right and I was just overreacting!!
By the way it’s the best thing I ever bought for cycling.
Guys find YOUR saddle! It’s crucial!
Powermeters, wheels etc come second..
@Ringo I noticed that when I clamped my saddle in the mount that the slightly misaligned rail on the right side moving into the groove also slightly pushed up the sitting surface of the seat on the right side. This created a pressure point on my sit bones right side. In order to correct this and to prevent the rails from sliding in the clamp mount I have glued 800 grit emory cloth in the mount groove on one side to shim it back to level. My rails also had some kind of clear coating that was not very smooth so that has been buffed off as well. I was kind of surprised when I put a level perpendicular across the seat and it was showing that it was off.
So at any rate this is a heads up in case you get some pressure points one side or the other because it may have distorted the saddle somewhat when clamping misaligned rails. I still really like this saddle so I wont give up on it and I will do whatever it takes to make it right.
I wanted to add to this as I have a Composit saddle as well and am now comparing the Full Carbon to it. They say the Full Carbon is based on the Composit but I find the shape of the Carbon is definitely different. I have mounted the Carbon on my backup winter bike (08 Time VXR) and have opened up the seat mount grooves to ensure the Carbon seat surface doesnt distort when clamping the rails as I described above. So I have the Carbon nose down at 1 degree measuring from the flat portion in the center of the saddle. The Composit is on my main bike (Col V2R) with the nose down at 2.5 degree measuring the same flat portion as the Carbon. This morning before I headed out for some intervals I rode the Time as a warm up to see what the Carbon saddle felt like compared to the Composit. Then I got on the Composit and headed out for my intevals and once completed came back and got on the Carbon to see what it felt like again after been on the Composit for 1.5 hour. I should now mention that my left sitbone has a big raw spot from a previous 4hr ride on the Carbon that was mounted on my main bike and this is why I took it off and installed it on my back up bike. I found I could ride the Composit even with the raw spot and it didnt seem to bother as much as the Carbon. It has healed 90% and now even as well as the Carbon is set up on my back up bike the Composit still feels better in comparison as it doesnt rub the raw spot and it seems to cup my ass more so than the Carbon. I also think the Composit has a narrower nose which works for me. They are different saddles going by feel on set up for the nose down angles and the profile through the nose area (width). I dont think I would purchase another Carbon but I think I can tolerate it on my back up bike for shorter rides through the offseason. I would however purchase another Composit with carbon rails this time as it just feels right for me. I know this is long winded but if your going to spend the big bucks for a Full Carbon this might give more insight as what to expect.
Now think I might go to ebay and order that Composit with Carbon rails. :D
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The issue that got me off the Full Carbon years ago was it’s hardness/harshness. I’m using a Composit CRB now. The shell has more give. I like that.
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Oh this is very good to hear about the Composit CRB. Sure glad I didnt pay full price for the Carbon.
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leandrofresh wrote:
Mon Jun 03, 2019 11:48 am
With an aggressive position (condsiderable drop) we tend to sit more on the pubic rami, since you ride a very upright position you rely on the widest part of the ischiatic tuberosity which is far back. The saddle wave was probably pushing you a bit forward since you didn't have enough support to sit like you would do in a chair, this is what you unconsciously look for when you ride your bike. About the pain in your left bone looks like you where falling to the left side and now you have to get used to have the right support, so I would say youre going to feel it for a while.
Thanks for this information, it's good to have it explained like this. The funny thing is, I think I have been sitting too far to the right on the Ergowave. It's felt normal to me, but that's when I get the discomfort. On this morning's ride, I shifted to the left a bit. It feels as though I am falling off on the left side, but it's definitely more comfortable. I'll give it a couple more rides this week and think about trying the 14cm version to see if it makes any difference.

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back to my Berk Lupina after the Bontrager XXX experiment... the XXX is good till about 40-50miles... after that ny sit bones start to feel it.. I just wish the Berks where a little more robust in the glue they use for the rails / saddle attachment.

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That would be the Selle SMP, though I've also used the Planet Bike ARS saddle which is very cheap and comfortable. During my research, I also discovered that most riders prefer high-end models like the Fizik Aliante and the ISM models.

Came across this https://backcoretherapy.com/best-road-b ... ong-rides/ selection. Some pretty solid selections, especially for long rides.

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Schadenfreude wrote:
Tue Jun 04, 2019 12:52 am
leandrofresh wrote:
Mon Jun 03, 2019 11:48 am
With an aggressive position (condsiderable drop) we tend to sit more on the pubic rami, since you ride a very upright position you rely on the widest part of the ischiatic tuberosity which is far back. The saddle wave was probably pushing you a bit forward since you didn't have enough support to sit like you would do in a chair, this is what you unconsciously look for when you ride your bike. About the pain in your left bone looks like you where falling to the left side and now you have to get used to have the right support, so I would say youre going to feel it for a while.
Thanks for this information, it's good to have it explained like this. The funny thing is, I think I have been sitting too far to the right on the Ergowave. It's felt normal to me, but that's when I get the discomfort. On this morning's ride, I shifted to the left a bit. It feels as though I am falling off on the left side, but it's definitely more comfortable. I'll give it a couple more rides this week and think about trying the 14cm version to see if it makes any difference.
Then if you feel like you falling to the other side might be leg discrepancy related. Might be an actual longer femur or shin or just hip muscles are shortened on one side, left leg might be longer. Then the pain if the left side must be because an excesse of pressure in the left bone since it is doing most of the work to support you. Our brain gets used to the sensation to be listed to one side without even noticing, so Its very usual to feel like falling to the other side now, but you must be sitting square for the first time (maybe ever). The sensation will wear off in time. I might be able to help if a friend can record you sitting and pedalling on the trainer from behind. You sit in the two positions and record both. So I can (and you too) check if you are sitting square.

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spdntrxi wrote:
Tue Jun 04, 2019 3:08 am
back to my Berk Lupina after the Bontrager XXX experiment... the XXX is good till about 40-50miles... after that ny sit bones start to feel it.. I just wish the Berks where a little more robust in the glue they use for the rails / saddle attachment.
I work with a team who rides berks and they are too soft on the case and rails. You can't fit a rider properly in them cause the excessive flex. When you ride with moderate intensity to full power the knee over pedal spindle goes from -10 to -20 or more (setback increases exceeding optimal range) many riders complained about back and hamstrings pain and it was saddle related. Needs to be adjusted far forward to compensate that phenomenom. And you still feel like it's not forwared enough. I dont think 80-90gr saddles are functional... If some cases they work, but they have a very short lifespan... For those who feel pressure points try the prologo dimension.

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What about Dash Cycle strike saddle? Anyone tried that before? If so how was it?

I do long rides like 50-100milers so looking at alternatives.



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addictR1 wrote:
Wed Jun 05, 2019 11:55 pm
What about Dash Cycle strike saddle? Anyone tried that before? If so how was it?

I do long rides like 50-100milers so looking at alternatives.



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I have the TTsaddle... pretty much looks like the same saddle to me online anyways... generally I dont do anything long with it since it's on my TT bike... so 2 hours max. It's pretty comfy but I kinda doubt it's a 4-5hr kind of saddle.

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leandrofresh wrote:
Wed Jun 05, 2019 8:33 pm
Then if you feel like you falling to the other side might be leg discrepancy related. Might be an actual longer femur or shin or just hip muscles are shortened on one side, left leg might be longer. Then the pain if the left side must be because an excesse of pressure in the left bone since it is doing most of the work to support you. Our brain gets used to the sensation to be listed to one side without even noticing, so Its very usual to feel like falling to the other side now, but you must be sitting square for the first time (maybe ever). The sensation will wear off in time. I might be able to help if a friend can record you sitting and pedalling on the trainer from behind. You sit in the two positions and record both. So I can (and you too) check if you are sitting square.
It's likely I have a leg length discrepancy. I only found that out a few weeks ago during an appointment with my podiatrist. I have a correction (4mm I think) on the heal of my right orthotic (bunions + flat feet = blecch) to compensate. I hadn't made a connection between that and my position on the saddle. I have some cleat wedges that I could use to create a shim on my right shoe - I'll give it a go. After you mentioned it, I took a lot at a bike fit report from a year ago which included a saddle pressure analysis - it mentioned a list to the right. I thought I had dealt with that a while ago, but looks as though I haven't.

Thanks for your help, things seem to be falling into place now. I'll see if I can take some video soon and I'll PM you - thanks for your offer to help.

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