Let's talk rotors

Discuss light weight issues concerning road bikes & parts.
bruno2000
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by bruno2000

I'm also doubting in buying the new Dura-ace or the new XTR Rotors.
As for esthetics I like the XTR more.
But on a technical level would the Dura-Ace rotor not been made to dissipate heat better?
I can imagine heat being a biggen problem on a road bike than on a mtb bike.

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If you can cook a 160/140mm XTR rotor combo on the road then the DA rotor won't be what saves you...

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bruno2000 wrote:
Fri Apr 05, 2019 11:05 am
I'm also doubting in buying the new Dura-ace or the new XTR Rotors.
As for esthetics I like the XTR more.
But on a technical level would the Dura-Ace rotor not been made to dissipate heat better?
I can imagine heat being a biggen problem on a road bike than on a mtb bike.
I have no doubt that the newest rotors are better, but it's probably less of a difference than between standard non-finned ice tech rotors and the old XTR RT99 rotors.

Mountain bikes that need big rotors generate more heat because the slopes are steeper and the turns are closer together. The road equivalent would be racing down Lombard St in San Francisco. Plus it seems like road levers give more leverage than MTB levers. Maybe it's the same piston and a longer lever, but road brakes are more powerful than they look when compared to MTB brakes.

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by scale29

Noctiluxx wrote:
Thu Apr 04, 2019 8:13 pm
Has anyone used the Hope Floating disk rotors on their Ultegra brakes?
Yes, they won’t work without a bit of tinkering, the rivets contact with the calliper.

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Yeti wrote:
Thu Apr 04, 2019 6:03 pm
So what is the general consensus on "the best" rotor to use with Shimano hydraulics? The Dura Ace RT900 or the XTR MT900? Also, at 155 lbs do I really need a 160mm rotor on the front. I know how to brake and don't drag my brakes on extended downhills. Overkill with 160mm?
I used the RT900s when they came out and just recently swapped them for the new MT900s on my road bike and I don't see any reason to use the RT900s.. they look terrible and they're heavier. I'm 135lbs and use 160mm/140mm just because it seems standard. Also feels like the 160 on the front evens out the break feel to me.

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bilwit wrote:
Fri Apr 05, 2019 6:28 pm
Yeti wrote:
Thu Apr 04, 2019 6:03 pm
So what is the general consensus on "the best" rotor to use with Shimano hydraulics? The Dura Ace RT900 or the XTR MT900? Also, at 155 lbs do I really need a 160mm rotor on the front. I know how to brake and don't drag my brakes on extended downhills. Overkill with 160mm?
I used the RT900s when they came out and just recently swapped them for the new MT900s on my road bike and I don't see any reason to use the RT900s.. they look terrible and they're heavier. I'm 135lbs and use 160mm/140mm just because it seems standard. Also feels like the 160 on the front evens out the break feel to me.
MT900 in 140 are not really good looking to me either ( 4arm)... are the 160mm's 5 arm atleast ?) most pics I see are the 5 arm 180's which look great.
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spdntrxi wrote:
Fri Apr 05, 2019 6:53 pm
bilwit wrote:
Fri Apr 05, 2019 6:28 pm
Yeti wrote:
Thu Apr 04, 2019 6:03 pm
So what is the general consensus on "the best" rotor to use with Shimano hydraulics? The Dura Ace RT900 or the XTR MT900? Also, at 155 lbs do I really need a 160mm rotor on the front. I know how to brake and don't drag my brakes on extended downhills. Overkill with 160mm?
I used the RT900s when they came out and just recently swapped them for the new MT900s on my road bike and I don't see any reason to use the RT900s.. they look terrible and they're heavier. I'm 135lbs and use 160mm/140mm just because it seems standard. Also feels like the 160 on the front evens out the break feel to me.
MT900 in 140 are not really good looking to me either ( 4arm)... are the 160mm's 5 arm atleast ?) most pics I see are the 5 arm 180's which look great.
160s are 4-arm too. I had reservations about those 90 degree arms but it's a better look to my eye than the obnoxious ice fins on the road model

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by spdntrxi

Thanks for confirming... that was my concern. Slight bummer
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ichobi
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by ichobi

Anyone got experience with the Carbon-Ti rotor? They seems to be half the weight of SRAM Centerline XR rotor.

http://www.carbon-ti.com/products/brake ... rbon-2-160

160mm rotor at only 77g. Quite costly though.

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by ChiZ01

ichobi wrote:
Mon Apr 08, 2019 5:05 pm
Anyone got experience with the Carbon-Ti rotor? They seems to be half the weight of SRAM Centerline XR rotor.

http://www.carbon-ti.com/products/brake ... rbon-2-160

160mm rotor at only 77g. Quite costly though.
77g + 30g centerlock adapter is not really light

bruno2000
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by bruno2000

On Cyclingtips I saw a pictyure of Sagan riding 160mm front xtr rotor and 140mm rear xtr rotor.

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ryanw
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by ryanw

I think they look better than the DA 9100 rotors, and they weigh 22g less combined (160/140mm):

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by willmac

Do you have a photo of the rear rotor?

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ryanw
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by ryanw

It's identical but smaller.
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by willmac

ryanw wrote:
Wed Apr 10, 2019 4:56 pm
It's identical but smaller.
I assumed that. I was wondering about the aesthetics and the ratio of actual rotor vs spider compared to the larger 160.

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