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2019 Izalco Max disc 9.9 or Canyon Aeroad CF SLX disc 9.0 di2

Posted: Sat Mar 02, 2019 9:56 am
by Papey
Hey guys,

Long time lurker first time posting.

Looking at getting a new bike with disc and electronic groupset. Gave myself a budget of around $12,000 aud to get a decent aero-esque bike with either p2m or quarq power meter.

Was initially looking at system six and teammachine but they're $14-15k rrp. Noticed that the two german brands seem pretty well priced for what they offer on the higher spec builds.

Anyway, if there's anyone who's ridden/owns either of the bikes (or someone crazy who owns both!) could give any feedback that'd be awesome.

Regarding the powermeter, I've spent the last two days reading everyone powermeter to death.. pretty sure I'll get either dfour91 with quarq cranks or a p2m with praxis rings and rotor cranks depending on what is cheaper. I was almost tempted to haggle the system six with the p2m NGeco until I saw you had to pay 590euro to 'activate' it... pretty bizzare given the cost of the bike.

Cheers for any helpful contribution!
Papey

2019 Izalco Max disc 9.9 or Canyon Aeroad CF SLX disc 9.0 di2

Posted: Sat Mar 02, 2019 9:56 am
by Weenie

Re: 2019 Izalco Max disc 9.9 or Canyon Aeroad CF SLX disc 9.0 di2

Posted: Sat Mar 02, 2019 11:20 am
by djel
Subscribed as I'm in the same situation and was looking at those 2 bikes although the Focus are a bit hard to find in Western Australia.

Re: 2019 Izalco Max disc 9.9 or Canyon Aeroad CF SLX disc 9.0 di2

Posted: Sat Mar 02, 2019 11:42 am
by Papey
what size would you be? I saw a focus 56cm new for $10000 on bikeexchange

Re: 2019 Izalco Max disc 9.9 or Canyon Aeroad CF SLX disc 9.0 di2

Posted: Sat Mar 02, 2019 1:25 pm
by wheelsONfire
Of all these 4 bikes that you mention, Canyon is the oldest if you talk frameset!
Probably due to update 2020. As far as i know Focus is new for 2019.

Re: 2019 Izalco Max disc 9.9 or Canyon Aeroad CF SLX disc 9.0 di2

Posted: Sat Mar 02, 2019 9:36 pm
by robertbb
Canyon's actively working on a new Aeroad.

Re: 2019 Izalco Max disc 9.9 or Canyon Aeroad CF SLX disc 9.0 di2

Posted: Sat Mar 02, 2019 10:41 pm
by Nejmann
I would look at the madone or the venge if it was me.

Re: 2019 Izalco Max disc 9.9 or Canyon Aeroad CF SLX disc 9.0 di2

Posted: Sun Mar 03, 2019 1:44 am
by Papey
wheelsONfire wrote:
Sat Mar 02, 2019 1:25 pm
Of all these 4 bikes that you mention, Canyon is the oldest if you talk frameset!
Probably due to update 2020. As far as i know Focus is new for 2019.
Thanks man - thats good to know. The Focus would be a clear winner for me if it had a different colour scheme. Not a fan of the petronas mercedes look.

Re: 2019 Izalco Max disc 9.9 or Canyon Aeroad CF SLX disc 9.0 di2

Posted: Sun Mar 03, 2019 10:39 am
by hannawald
Maybe there will be new Aeroad for Tour de France, you may be sad you did not wait couple of months.
You have a very nice budget to buy pretty much anything..so read on until you fall in love with something:) Nobody can give you advice what to buy..at least unless you say how much you ride, what type of roads, how hilly, average speed/watts..
You can build your bike from scratch, choosing your own components..
With Specialized Venge Pro is the same frame as S Works! (Not the case of Tarmac), there is a Madone, new disc version of Oltre XR4, brand new Look Blade RS, Willier Cento etc..

Re: 2019 Izalco Max disc 9.9 or Canyon Aeroad CF SLX disc 9.0 di2

Posted: Sun Mar 03, 2019 11:36 am
by reedplayer
hannawald wrote:
Sun Mar 03, 2019 10:39 am
.....
With Specialized Venge Pro is the same frame as S Works! (Not the case of Tarmac), there is a Madone, new disc version of Oltre XR4, brand new Look Blade RS, Willier Cento etc..
oh yes there are a lot of brands on the market, scott, felt, cube, time..........we could keep going this for hours..... :wink:

Re: 2019 Izalco Max disc 9.9 or Canyon Aeroad CF SLX disc 9.0 di2

Posted: Sun Mar 03, 2019 11:45 am
by wheelsONfire
Papey wrote:
Sun Mar 03, 2019 1:44 am
wheelsONfire wrote:
Sat Mar 02, 2019 1:25 pm
Of all these 4 bikes that you mention, Canyon is the oldest if you talk frameset!
Probably due to update 2020. As far as i know Focus is new for 2019.
Thanks man - thats good to know. The Focus would be a clear winner for me if it had a different colour scheme. Not a fan of the petronas mercedes look.
Ah, that's a pity! I like the looks of it. What do you like in terms of color (scheme).
The nice thing about silver is, that when they did a test at cars, they found that silver is actually that color which hides dirt the best.
That's always a good thing :-D

Re: 2019 Izalco Max disc 9.9 or Canyon Aeroad CF SLX disc 9.0 di2

Posted: Mon Mar 04, 2019 12:11 am
by Papey
Its not so much the silver - I like the ultegra di2 frame. It's the turqoise! If they offered the Disc 9.9 with the black frameset (only available in frame only) then we'd be laughing!

I'm planning on using a p2m NGEco with praxis aero chainrings and the black scheme would look ninja

Re: 2019 Izalco Max disc 9.9 or Canyon Aeroad CF SLX disc 9.0 di2

Posted: Mon Mar 04, 2019 9:22 am
by Papey
Probs could put this in a new topic, but meh I'll just ask here...
So for a frame, like the izalco max, with a bb86.. if i want to run a 30mm crank instead of 24mm do i just need to get a different bb86 that permits 30mm diameter? Also if I run dura ace but change the chainrings to praxis or something is that going to have any material impact on shifting efficiency.

Thanks for any assistance.

Re: 2019 Izalco Max disc 9.9 or Canyon Aeroad CF SLX disc 9.0 di2

Posted: Mon Mar 04, 2019 2:41 pm
by wheelsONfire

Re: 2019 Izalco Max disc 9.9 or Canyon Aeroad CF SLX disc 9.0 di2

Posted: Mon Mar 04, 2019 3:43 pm
by dcorn
Love my Aeroad disc. I have the 8.0 SLX with Ultegra Di2 and its been a great ride. I direct swapped my Ultegra crank for a rotor 3D24 with power2max NGeco and Praxis rings like you want.

I will agree that the frame design is getting long in the tooth. If I had more time to wait, I would have gotten the new Venge, but it wasn't even revealed when I bought my Canyon. A Venge Pro with Ui2 plus a Rotor ALDHU24/P2M crank setup would be well under your budget and still a $$$ setup.

Re: 2019 Izalco Max disc 9.9 or Canyon Aeroad CF SLX disc 9.0 di2

Posted: Fri Mar 08, 2019 1:39 am
by Papey
So since the start of this post im growing slightly weary of the focus. maybe its worth a little extra for BMC or cervelo

Re: 2019 Izalco Max disc 9.9 or Canyon Aeroad CF SLX disc 9.0 di2

Posted: Fri Mar 08, 2019 1:39 am
by Weenie