RocketRacing wrote: ↑
Fri Mar 01, 2019 3:19 pm
robertbb wrote: ↑
Fri Mar 01, 2019 3:39 am
I'm one of those people that think 2015+ Campy C/R/SR 11 is the perfect groupset and will use it till death.
I think that is part imprinting like a baby duck (we are drawn to the cars or music of our youth for example), and part maturity of finding what works for you, and realizing that you do not NEED more.
Right. It comes down to figuring out what you need/want vs what marketing and "society" is telling you that you need/want. That's worth re-reading several times and applying to everything in life - not just cycling.
Personally, I've determined that Campy 11 REV 2015+ rim brake groupsets meet all my needs for gearing, servicability, speed of shift, preciseness of shift, stopping power, weight, ergonomics, aesthetics and durability and settled on Chorus as my groupset of choice which for a bunch of reasons I think is a better overall group than Record or Super Record, at any price (which I better not say that too loudly as it will probably get me flamed here
I will say though that I laugh inside when people talk about the "nostalgia" of a particular groupset (e.g. Record or Dura Ace). As though riding something that has that marque printed on it somehow connects them to entirely different products used in a bygone era by Italian or American men riding steel bikes up mountains) - they are *not* the same.
Anyway, take a step back, separate your thinking from the logos and branding and look at the offering in front of you. Then whatever your personal criteria is - apply it.
That said, I would only ever consider changing groups if one became available that met all the following criterea:
1) Wireless (if I'm going electronic, I'm not using wires between shifter and derailleurs - simple. Wires between derailleurs and an internal battery is OK)
2) 13 speed, with a cassette from 12-32 (or 34) with the all important 16t cog, an 18t cog, and sensible jumps to 32/34.
3) All of the above with rim brakes
If it aint all of the above, I aint switching. That's me telling the vendor what I want, not the vendor telling me what I should want. And someone doesn't build it - *f##k* 'em, I'll stay where I am.