When will you buy eTap AXS?

Discuss light weight issues concerning road bikes & parts.

The question is when...?

Poll ended at Thu Feb 28, 2019 1:50 am

Right NOW!
8
3%
Soon, when I get a better deal.
10
3%
April, when Force eTap AXS would appear.
18
6%
Want it, but no plan.
46
16%
My current groupset is just fine.
198
69%
Never! Single Speed FTW!
7
2%
 
Total votes: 287

ichobi
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by ichobi

rollinslow wrote:I really thought this would be an improvement on the first gen etap....instead it's just a mess of electronics and more compatibility issues such as needing an xdr hub. Not to mention the throw-away power meter when you need new chain rings. Campy did 12 speed right, and I think Shimano will roast sram when the next gen arrives. Bike Radar gave etap 5/5 stars btw....I wonder how much bias there is in that review.
Warren (the guy who reviews the new group) is a shabby reviewer. Doesn't say much if anything at all. Try the ever exhaustive cyclingtips review by James Huang. He made a good few criticisms.

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glander
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by glander

I'm still disappointed Sram did not issue a firmware update so the prior etap shifters could work with the new 12 speed axs. Personally I could care less about the app and it's required bluetooth connection to the shifters. A firmware update would have shown Srams committent to prior tech they released but I guess not....

tabl10s
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by tabl10s

ParisCarbon wrote:
Thu Feb 07, 2019 1:43 pm
Never.. Im waiting (impatiently) for EPS 12 for my SL6 and Venge.... Come on Campy Ive got a pocket full of $ for you...
Even if EPS only offers the 12 tooth only?
2016 Orbea Orca OMR: 15.0lbs/6.804kg...😐 | 2016 Rca: 11.07lbs/5.048kg...😭 | 2015 Pinarello F8: 13.04lbs/5.915kg...😩 | 2018 S-Works SL6: 12.04/5.625kg... 😥

tabl10s
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by tabl10s

rollinslow wrote:
Thu Feb 07, 2019 1:57 pm
I really thought this would be an improvement on the first gen etap....instead it's just a mess of electronics and more compatibility issues such as needing an xdr hub. Not to mention the throw-away power meter when you need new chain rings. Campy did 12 speed right, and I think Shimano will roast sram when the next gen arrives. Bike Radar gave etap 5/5 stars btw....I wonder how much bias there is in that review.
Cranks not rings require the PM change. Why do we need one anyway?
2016 Orbea Orca OMR: 15.0lbs/6.804kg...😐 | 2016 Rca: 11.07lbs/5.048kg...😭 | 2015 Pinarello F8: 13.04lbs/5.915kg...😩 | 2018 S-Works SL6: 12.04/5.625kg... 😥

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Kjetil
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What's that, tabl10s? Campag has two 12 speed cassettes, 11-29 and 11-32, for both mech and EPS.
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tabl10s
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by tabl10s

glander wrote:
Thu Feb 07, 2019 2:44 pm
I'm still disappointed Sram did not issue a firmware update so the prior etap shifters could work with the new 12 speed axs. Personally I could care less about the app and it's required bluetooth connection to the shifters. A firmware update would have shown Srams committent to prior tech they released but I guess not....
They should've updated Gen 1 to have connectivity of AXS(isn't that what the idiotic stick was for?).
2016 Orbea Orca OMR: 15.0lbs/6.804kg...😐 | 2016 Rca: 11.07lbs/5.048kg...😭 | 2015 Pinarello F8: 13.04lbs/5.915kg...😩 | 2018 S-Works SL6: 12.04/5.625kg... 😥

wintershade
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by wintershade

glepore wrote:
Thu Feb 07, 2019 1:55 pm
Nope. It was all good when stuff was cross compatible. Now the manu's are going to eat their young in a market that's already failing. Consumers don't want another bb standard, unique chain, freehub bodies that are unique yada. The sweetspot of 11 is that all the big 3's cassettes etc are interchangeable.
This!

The direction we’re now heading really sucks with proprietary every and cross-compatible nothing. It’s super annoying for those of us with multiple bikes who want to swap wheels and stuff across bikes without changing out casseeetes (and now freehub bodies)!

And what does this mean for neutral wheel support on events like Haut Route. It was hard enough when they needed both rim and disc options, now add in 11s Shimano, 12 speed Campy, and 12 speed XDR?! Pretty soon sag cars are going to need to be sag trucks to carry all the necessary parts.

moyboy
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by moyboy

HAHAH nice! btw.... in Canada?
mbdurham17 wrote:
Thu Feb 07, 2019 3:16 am
I am going to get it and move my etap to my wife’s bike I’m building :)


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Alfus
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by Alfus

AXS?? why? I have Di2 and it's perfect!

chiefspinninggear
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by chiefspinninggear

will be awaiting the shimano equivalent as slightly over SRAM's shifting issues

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dgasmd
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by dgasmd

Stendhal wrote:
Kjetil wrote:
Thu Feb 07, 2019 7:14 am
Noctiluxx wrote:
Thu Feb 07, 2019 1:52 am
I will buy it when Shimano and Campagnolo file for bankrupcy.
This.
Perhaps one of those dominoes may fall.

https://cyclingtips.com/2017/07/how-cam ... ng-market/
That’s 2 years old!!

I will buy my first set of sram anything when Chitmano goes bankrupt and folds and Campy has burnt to the ground along with all their supplies for even 8 sp left out in the world!!!

Just bought Campy 11 SR for 2 bikes last year. They are getting changed only when 11sp EPS becomes wireless, IF EVER!!!!

sfo423
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by sfo423

Got it from a distributor in EU. Everything (crank, cassette, discs, etc) for $2k. His last kit.

I have not seen US pricing on full group but I’m sure it’s absurd. I think ugly too.

ducman wrote:
Thu Feb 07, 2019 6:58 am
sfo423 wrote:
Thu Feb 07, 2019 6:51 am
I just bought previous gen eTap at a steal price. New stuff is esthetically challenged.
On sale? Where? Thank you.

rollinslow
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by rollinslow

tabl10s wrote:
Thu Feb 07, 2019 3:13 pm
rollinslow wrote:
Thu Feb 07, 2019 1:57 pm
I really thought this would be an improvement on the first gen etap....instead it's just a mess of electronics and more compatibility issues such as needing an xdr hub. Not to mention the throw-away power meter when you need new chain rings. Campy did 12 speed right, and I think Shimano will roast sram when the next gen arrives. Bike Radar gave etap 5/5 stars btw....I wonder how much bias there is in that review.
Cranks not rings require the PM change. Why do we need one anyway?
No, it's rings that require a whole new system. What a joke.

https://www.bicycling.com/bikes-gear/a2 ... xs-review/

rides4beer
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by rides4beer

For the same price I can get Ultegra Di2, and it comes with a free bike! lol

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Dan Gerous
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by Dan Gerous

I like the gear range, a wider range is mostly good in the mountains where you need low gears but can spin out on descents... but that's it, and it's not enough to upgrade my current 11 speed eTAP. Too much money for too little incentives that comes with a few annoyances (too much integration and locking into all things SRAM eTAP AXS, more weight...). I would maybe consider it if I was buying a new bike and it came with it... but even that, I'm not sure.

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