When will you buy eTap AXS?

[karmaz]

Can anyone confirm if there is any chance of some sort of update that will be made available for the 11sp shifters to make them work with 12 sp?
Should be pretty easy to do.

It's not possible.....nor mechanically (engine of derailleur) nor for the electronics (there are changes in it)

It's possible as they still use the same wireless protocol as 11sp ETAP for shifting. But they've stated explicitly that they don't want to do it as it "would be complicated" and there is no bluetooth support which would ruin the AXS experience, or something.

Simply put, not enough dollars in making it backwards compatible.

[R1Alvin]

It's appealing, the thought of wireless tech, but I am patiently waiting to see what Shimano comes up with in terms of wireless Di2 for road.

MTB is another animal- Now here, I am interested because my Enduro bike already has the mechanical XX1 Eagle grouppo on it. I am waiting for SRAM to release the components pricing individually vice the entire 2,000 dollar drivetrain since I dont need the cassette and cranks. I'll assume the rear deraillure and paddle shifter will be in the 1k price range?

[Daniel1975]

Never. To many design faults in it, which make it very expensive to maintain. Expensive cassettes, the idiot one-piece PM; not for me and I hope nobody will buy it. Show them that they have gone to far.

[MiddMan]

I think that’s a great analogy 3Pio. I wonder at what point the cycling industry gets oversaturated with technology and then everyone pines for ‘analogue’ set ups aka mechanical. Pricing is also out of control. Pretty soon you can buy a Ducati for less than a road bike.

Definetely Cycling companys learn things from HiFi industry (with their insane pricing, and marketing )..

Let answer the question in this topis.. Im really glad that i bought again Campy Record 11s mechanical (so on both bikes exactly the same groupset), and i would buy eTap AXS NEVER!!!

[robertbb]

I think that’s a great analogy 3Pio. I wonder at what point the cycling industry gets oversaturated with technology and then everyone pines for ‘analogue’ set ups aka mechanical. Pricing is also out of control. Pretty soon you can buy a Ducati for less than a road bike.

100% this

[Wookski]

Never. To many design faults in it, which make it very expensive to maintain. Expensive cassettes, the idiot one-piece PM; not for me and I hope nobody will buy it. Show them that they have gone to far.

Nobody is forcing you to buy it, support what you like and ignore what you don’t. Whether or not the groupset is successful shouldn’t matter.

The weirdest thing is that we have several pages dedicated to the groupset with no mention of weight? Is this weightweenies?

[Bordcla]

Welcome to the wonderful world of CAD15K$ bikes and now $5k groupsets... FML

[Wookski]

Welcome to the wonderful world of CAD15K$ bikes and now $5k groupsets... FML

Super Record EPS has been there for years

[Dan Gerous]

The weirdest thing is that we have several pages dedicated to the groupset with no mention of weight? Is this weightweenies?

This was posted in the main SRAM 2019? thread:

ok someone had the intelligence to put the new sram parts on the scales of truth

claimed


real weight. hydro shifters are ultegra weight but super record price . impressive light weight on the chainset but unusable on non etap axs group.




next gen Shimano should concentrate on HG+,improved disc brakes to eliminate noise and lighter weight. xtr has magnesium disc brakes.

[RocketRacing]

Etap axs looks interesting. I would probably get it if it came on a new bike. I suspect it may be the only way to get it at a reasonable price.

But i would not touch it until i see the force etap offering.

[Darceking]

Just put a deposit down on a new S-Works Venge. Wont be here until April but am looking forward to seeing what its all about. I suspect its going to be a game changer.

[Daniel1975]

Welcome to the wonderful world of CAD15K$ bikes and now $5k groupsets... FML

Super Record EPS has been there for years

Not a big success and with normal Record below it.

[Wookski]

Not a big success and with normal Record below it.

And how does that change the fact that we are already in the world of $5K groupsets? But thank you for your wonderful contribution to this thread

[DutchMountains]

I have no need for a cassette that starts with a 11t cog. Wake me when 12 speed cassettes starting with a 14t become available.

[BdaGhisallo]

I have no need for a cassette that starts with a 11t cog. Wake me when 12 speed cassettes starting with a 14t become available.

If you want that, Shimano Ultegra is your only option for a cassette. 14-28 is on offer there.