When will you buy eTap AXS?

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The question is when...?

Poll ended at Thu Feb 28, 2019 1:50 am

Right NOW!
8
3%
Soon, when I get a better deal.
10
3%
April, when Force eTap AXS would appear.
18
6%
Want it, but no plan.
46
16%
My current groupset is just fine.
198
69%
Never! Single Speed FTW!
7
2%
 
Total votes: 287

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by oreoboreo

Nope
Let's finish the ride with a 20% grade.

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deepakvrao wrote:
Marin wrote:
Thu Feb 07, 2019 10:56 am
I'm staying with 1x11 for the foreseeable future. Even 1x12 mechanical doesn't seem very interesting.

I ride 10-42 cassettes most of the time, and my road-only cassette (3T 9-32) has more range than a 10-33 already.
You mean you have a 10 and a 9 toot cassette that goes onto regular hubs? Then, why has SRAM made a new requirement for their new 10 tooth cassette?
A hub and freehub body are two different things.

For ~$60 you can swap between an HG and XD freehub.

I can run Campy, Shimano, XD and microspline on the same hub.

Meaning, everything from 9 speed road and MTB to 12 speed road (Campy, SRAM) to 12 speed MTB (10-50 cassette on XD freehub, or 10-51 on Microspline).

When people here buy $10,000 bikes with shit hubs that can only take one type of freehub body, that’s on them.




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by Sock3t

Reports now are 1x AXS having chain drops. WTF Sram?

http://www.cyclingnews.com/news/mechani ... Lzfq6QCZtk

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The ride we did the other week makes a solid case for the new AXS gearing. On 52t I got gapped on a slight downhill during a timed section pushing over 400w at over 42 mph from the back of the group and lost a few seconds. I would have like 53t for that as well as our over 40mph flat paceline we did on Las Posas (no, that's not a typo). Shortly thereafter, if you check my cadence on Deer Creek you'll see I really would've benefitted from a 34/28 (I made the mistake of grabbing an 11-25 Cassette because we were supposed to go up Latigo). For the 20 minute climb, I averaged around 4.5 w/kg, so not exactly leisure pace. It seems a majority of the weekend cyclist types had to walk the climb.

Link:
https://www.strava.com/activities/2218000707

I'm currently reassessing my gearing right now. I'm on the fence about a 53/38. I survived the ride last week and a 38/28 is slightly shorter GI than 36/25.

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by robertbb

RyanH wrote:
Mon Mar 25, 2019 12:23 am


I'm currently reassessing my gearing right now.
Someone over @paceline forum says a little birdy told him Campy will drop a sub-compact crank for 12s Chorus...

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No, sub compact is not what I was getting at. I would've spun out and gotten dropped in the first few minutes. More range without the jumps of a large cassette is what I needed and that's what AXS provides.

When I got gapped and lost time on one of the timed segments, I was doing 42.7 mph at 115 rpm and 474w. I would've been able to close the gap caused by the rider in front of me had I been on 53t. But, 53/39 would have been brutal going up deer creek as I hit a low of 45 rpm at 300w doing 4.9 mph with a 36/25.


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by spartan

dude what ru smoking. axs cassettes all have a useless 10tooth cog. what you need is a campy style 12 spped 11-32 or 11-30 with a small chainring 36 or 34.

sram crappy subcompact gearing adds unnecessary friction/wear on the drivetrain.


RyanH wrote:
Mon Mar 25, 2019 3:37 am
No, sub compact is not what I was getting at. I would've spun out and gotten dropped in the first few minutes. More range without the jumps of a large cassette is what I needed and that's what AXS provides.

When I got gapped and lost time on one of the timed segments, I was doing 42.7 mph at 115 rpm and 474w. I would've been able to close the gap caused by the rider in front of me had I been on 53t. But, 53/39 would have been brutal going up deer creek as I hit a low of 45 rpm at 300w doing 4.9 mph with a 36/25.
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Well Ryan if you try out AXS please tell us how you like it. So far I've not seen any rider reports on the system. So what gearing combo would you choose if you go the AXS route?

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spartan wrote:
Mon Mar 25, 2019 4:22 am
dude what ru smoking. axs cassettes all have a useless 10tooth cog. what you need is a campy style 12 spped 11-32 or 11-30 with a small chainring 36 or 34.
He needs the 53 so the 53/39 combo is it, not 36 or 34.

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by TheRich

RyanH wrote:
Mon Mar 25, 2019 12:23 am
The ride we did the other week makes a solid case for the new AXS gearing. On 52t I got gapped on a slight downhill during a timed section pushing over 400w at over 42 mph from the back of the group and lost a few seconds. I would have like 53t for that as well as our over 40mph flat paceline we did on Las Posas (no, that's not a typo). Shortly thereafter, if you check my cadence on Deer Creek you'll see I really would've benefitted from a 34/28 (I made the mistake of grabbing an 11-25 Cassette because we were supposed to go up Latigo). For the 20 minute climb, I averaged around 4.5 w/kg, so not exactly leisure pace. It seems a majority of the weekend cyclist types had to walk the climb.

Link:
https://www.strava.com/activities/2218000707

I'm currently reassessing my gearing right now. I'm on the fence about a 53/38. I survived the ride last week and a 38/28 is slightly shorter GI than 36/25.
What were the others running?

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by spartan

52/36 or 53/36 both can work. campy 12 speed cassettes both offer a 16t magical cog
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pdlpsher1 wrote:
Mon Mar 25, 2019 4:32 am
Well Ryan if you try out AXS please tell us how you like it. So far I've not seen any rider reports on the system. So what gearing combo would you choose if you go the AXS route?
Doesn't seem to have worked for Degenkolb in MSR. He had a chain drop on the descent of the Poggio and lost contact. Not a good look for SRAM.

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by ChiZ01

NickJHP wrote:
Mon Mar 25, 2019 5:46 am
pdlpsher1 wrote:
Mon Mar 25, 2019 4:32 am
Well Ryan if you try out AXS please tell us how you like it. So far I've not seen any rider reports on the system. So what gearing combo would you choose if you go the AXS route?
Doesn't seem to have worked for Degenkolb in MSR. He had a chain drop on the descent of the Poggio and lost contact. Not a good look for SRAM.
1x without chain catcher that's on him

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by Mirco

NickJHP wrote:
Mon Mar 25, 2019 5:46 am
pdlpsher1 wrote:
Mon Mar 25, 2019 4:32 am
Well Ryan if you try out AXS please tell us how you like it. So far I've not seen any rider reports on the system. So what gearing combo would you choose if you go the AXS route?
Doesn't seem to have worked for Degenkolb in MSR. He had a chain drop on the descent of the Poggio and lost contact. Not a good look for SRAM.
Because of not using a chain guide in 1x12 configuration. In cyclocross it is usual to use a chain guide in combination with 1x11 or 1x12. Maybe lessons learned now.

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I have a prediction to make. Ryan will be on AXS soon. He needs the 50x10. He’ll let us know how it works out. He’s always honest with his reviews.


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