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Looking for some input here

I good friend of mine owns a shop and I can get the below Cervelos for a really good deal right now, so what would you buy and why ?

- 2017 Cervelo C5 Disk Dura Ace 9000 / BR-RS805 hydraulic - It should be like https://www.sigmasports.com/item/Cer...Bike-2017/BRI4

- 2017 Cervelo R5 Rim brake Dura Ace 9000 - It should be like https://www.sigmasports.com/item/Cer...Bike-2017/4H7E

- 2018 Cervelo S3 Disk Ultegra Di2 ENVE 3.4 - It should be like https://www.sigmasports.com/item/Cer...Bike-2018/H2QC


The 2017 C5 and R5 would be about the same price and the 2018 S3 would be about double that price.

So what would you buy and why ?

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It's a hard to answer question without any information. How flexible are you? What type of riding do you do? Do you race?

I would buy new s3 lighter and stiffer than s5

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icantaffordcycling wrote: ↑

Wed Feb 06, 2019 8:08 pm

It's a hard to answer question without any information. How flexible are you? What type of riding do you do? Do you race?

Really flexible for an old guy, road riding, nope never raced.

Thx

KarlC wrote: ↑

Wed Feb 06, 2019 8:05 pm

Looking for some input here

I good friend of mine owns a shop and I can get the below Cervelos for a really good deal right now, so what would you buy and why ?

- 2017 Cervelo C5 Disk Dura Ace 9000 / BR-RS805 hydraulic - It should be like https://www.sigmasports.com/item/Cer...Bike-2017/BRI4

- 2017 Cervelo R5 Rim brake Dura Ace 9000 - It should be like https://www.sigmasports.com/item/Cer...Bike-2017/4H7E

- 2018 Cervelo S3 Disk Ultegra Di2 ENVE 3.4 - It should be like https://www.sigmasports.com/item/Cer...Bike-2018/H2QC


The 2017 C5 and R5 would be about the same price and the 2018 S3 would be about double that price.

So what would you buy and why ?

You're asking us to choose between 3 bikes with completely different tubing, different brakes (disc and rim), quite different geometry, different groupsets (also mech vs electronic).. And we don't even know much, aside that you will use it for "road riding", which means very little.

Not sure how easy it would be to give you meaningful feedback..

robeambro wrote: ↑

Wed Feb 06, 2019 8:30 pm

You're asking us to choose between 3 bikes with completely different tubing, different brakes (disc and rim), quite different geometry, different groupsets (also mech vs electronic).. And we don't even know much, aside that you will use it for "road riding", which means very little.

Not sure how easy it would be to give you meaningful feedback..

You are 100% right, 3 very differnt bikes and builds, its really just a chance to buy and try 1 or 2 different bikes for very cheep.

I have never had a disk bike, might be a good way to try one?

I sold my aero bike, might be a good way to replace it ?


So what would you do in this case ?

Thx

This is easy, what other bikes do you have?

If none, than R5.

Mr.Gib wrote: ↑

Wed Feb 06, 2019 8:56 pm

This is easy, what other bikes do you have?

If none, than R5.

See my sig for my curent bikes, I was leaning towards the R5 as its a great all around bike and Im not sure I want disk.

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westham7 wrote: ↑

Wed Feb 06, 2019 8:13 pm

I would buy new s3 lighter and stiffer than s5

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Source?

KarlC wrote: ↑

Wed Feb 06, 2019 8:34 pm

robeambro wrote: ↑

Wed Feb 06, 2019 8:30 pm

You're asking us to choose between 3 bikes with completely different tubing, different brakes (disc and rim), quite different geometry, different groupsets (also mech vs electronic).. And we don't even know much, aside that you will use it for "road riding", which means very little.

Not sure how easy it would be to give you meaningful feedback..

You are 100% right, 3 very differnt bikes and builds, its really just a chance to buy and try 1 or 2 different bikes for very cheep.

I have never had a disk bike, might be a good way to try one?

I sold my aero bike, might be a good way to replace it ?


So what would you do in this case ?

Thx

The S3 offers nothing but great looks and clean cable integration. Other than that it’s not the top aero bike out there, and is a ~8.5kg anchor. But with Enve’s it may turn out to be decent.

The R5 is a classic, you can’t go wrong with it, but has rim brakes.. I’m not sure it would offer you anything that you don’t already have with your other bikes. More racey sure, but not sure worth spending money just for that.

Never heard anything of the C series. My impression is that people tend to go to other brands when it comes to endurance frames.

Out of those I (myself) would get the S3, but you just sold your aero bike, so unsure the S3 would give you what your previous bike lacked.

Re: discs, I suppose it may be the good occasion to try them, but the debate could be endless..

To reiterate R5 is a great all rounder but depends on what you are looking for.

robeambro wrote: ↑

Thu Feb 07, 2019 5:52 am

KarlC wrote: ↑

Wed Feb 06, 2019 8:34 pm

robeambro wrote: ↑

Wed Feb 06, 2019 8:30 pm

You're asking us to choose between 3 bikes with completely different tubing, different brakes (disc and rim), quite different geometry, different groupsets (also mech vs electronic).. And we don't even know much, aside that you will use it for "road riding", which means very little.

Not sure how easy it would be to give you meaningful feedback..

You are 100% right, 3 very differnt bikes and builds, its really just a chance to buy and try 1 or 2 different bikes for very cheep.

I have never had a disk bike, might be a good way to try one?

I sold my aero bike, might be a good way to replace it ?


So what would you do in this case ?

Thx

The S3 offers nothing but great looks and clean cable integration. Other than that it’s not the top aero bike out there, and is a ~8.5kg anchor. But with Enve’s it may turn out to be decent.

The R5 is a classic, you can’t go wrong with it, but has rim brakes.. I’m not sure it would offer you anything that you don’t already have with your other bikes. More racey sure, but not sure worth spending money just for that.

Never heard anything of the C series. My impression is that people tend to go to other brands when it comes to endurance frames.

Out of those I (myself) would get the S3, but you just sold your aero bike, so unsure the S3 would give you what your previous bike lacked.

Re: discs, I suppose it may be the good occasion to try them, but the debate could be endless..

Good input Thx !

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Of those options, I'd get the 2018 S3 Disc. Di2 is absolutely worth the money and is an absolute pleasure to ride. Discs (once you learn how to set them up, the nuances of them, etc) are nice. I think that the benefits and negatives have both been blown out of proportion in heated debates. They won't change your life, the braking isn't out of this world good, but maintenance really is not as big of a deal as people make it out to be.


I personally already have a rim brake climbing/road racing/crit bike and a CX/Gravel/Endurance bike, so no need for the R5 or C5.

It looks like you already have a couple nice rim brake road bikes, I wouldn't buy another. You say you're flexible so the more aggresive geometry of the S3 vs C5 would probably be more comfortable to you. Aero is the way things are going ATM, I'd follow suit. If you don't already own a bike with an electronic groupset, you should get one. It'll be the bike that you grab when you're heading out and want to really enjoy the ride.

None of the three. You're getting shoehorned into expensive purchases because the guy's your mate or whatever.

Find a bike you really love then wait until you can afford it/get it at the price you want/build it from eBay parts.

I think i would skip this to.
Partly because i want all parts to be of my own choice.
I just refuse to have a bike with parts i don't want.
Buy a frameset that you like and go from here.

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