Colnago C64 - Build Specs/Weight

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maxice
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by maxice

I've just been informed of the imminent arrival of my C64 disc (earlier than expected), thought it may be a useful resource to have everyones build specs in one thread to help people like me who can't decide and so they can get an indication of total built up weight.

My spec current spec as follows:

C64 Disc BDBL
Size- 45S
Stem - Colnago R41/SR9 (whatever turns up!)
Handlebars - Colnago R41 (40cm)
Seatpost - Colnago C64
Saddle - Fizik Arione R1
Cages - Colnago Carbon Matte Black
Pedals - DuraAce 9100 SPD-SL

Still to decide on wheels and groupset.

Specs I've found on here :

1. User ride1970 5.78kgs

no specs

viewtopic.php?f=10&t=152307

2. User ymisyd 7.245kg on the road (pedals, cages x2, Garmin mount and speed sensor etc.)

C64 Disc PJRD 52S Frame (with headset bearings, without BB) 1082g
C64 Disc fork (uncut steerer) 475g
C64 Seatpost 210g
11-28 DA cassette 197g
DA 11 speed chain (uncut) 255g
Shimano E-tube handlebar junction 20g
50/34 DA chainset 172.5mm 652g
DA 9150 front derailleur 104g
DA 9150 rear derailleur 197g
Colnago SR9 stem 169g
Colnago R41 bars (40cm) 219g
Hutchinson Performance 11 Storm 25mm tyre 238g
DA Di2 shifter left 161g
DA Di2 shifter right 161g
DA 9170 front caliper 115g
DA 9170 rear caliper 115g
DA 160mm rotor (with lock-ring) 138g
DA 140mm rotor (with lock-ring) 117g
Di2 internal battery 56g
Saddle S-Works Power 143mm 159g
Bar tape Fizik superlight (no bar end caps) 75g
Bottom bracket - Ceramicspeed 103g
Di2 cable - Y-split 350/50/450 9g
Di2 Junction B SM-JC41 4g
Di2 cable 1200mm 11g
Di2 cable 1000mm 10g
Di2 cable 650mm 6g
Di2 cable 300mm 3g
Hydraulic hose 1000mm (uncut) 28g
Hydraulic hose 1700mm (uncut) 42g
DA pedals 248g
Colnago bottle cage 30g
Front supplied axle 27g
Rear supplied axle 33g
Roval CLX 50 disc front (with valve and rim-tape) 642g
Roval CLX 50 disc rear (with valve and rim-tape) 771g

viewtopic.php?f=3&t=154972

3. User seedster 7.4kg

Frame: Colnago C64 Disc MkII (56S PKBK)
Seatpost: Colnago
Seat: Berk Lupina Custom
Stem: Colnago R9
Bar: Easton E100
Bartape: Fizik
Bottle cages: Blackburn
Brakes: Campagnolo disc (F:160, R:160)
Front derailleur: Campagnolo Record EPS
Rear derailleur: Campagnolo Record EPS
Crankset: SRM Campagnolo 53/39
Bottom Bracket: Campagnolo BB86
Chain: Campagnolo Record
Shifters: Campagnolo H11 EPS Hydraulic
Cassette: Campagnolo SR 11-29
Wheels: lightweight meilenstein 24D
Tires: Vittoria Corsa G 28mm
Pedals: Look Keo blade 2 Ti

viewtopic.php?f=10&t=152441

4. User guyc 7.14kg

Frameset - C64 PKWH 56”
Stem - 3T Apto Team Stealth 110mm
Bars - 3T SuperErgo Team Stealth carbon 40cm
Saddle - Fizik Antares R1
Wheelset - Campagnolo Bora Ultra 50mm Dark Label
Chainset - Dura-Ace 9100 52/36 175mm with 4iii power meter
Front Mech - Dura-Ace 9150 Di2
Rear Mech - Dura-Ace 9150 Di2
Calipers - Dura-Ace 9100 Direct Mount
Shifters - Dura-Ace 9150 Di2
Pedals - Dura-Ace 9000
Bottom Bracket - C-Bear Ceramic
Bar tape - Fabric Hex
Tyres - Continental GP4000S II 25mm
Tubes - Continental Race Light

viewtopic.php?f=10&t=150909

5. User Robbie84 no weights

Size 58S
Wheels: Prime RP-38 carbon tubeless clinchers
Tyres: Schwalbe Pro-1 tubeless
Sealant: Caffelatex
Bars: Pro Vibe Aero Carbon (40cm)
Stem: Pro Vibe -10 120mm
Garmin mount: K-Edge Pro Vibe mount
Bar tape: Colnago White
Shifters: Shimano Dura-Ace Di2 Disc
Front derailleur: Shimano Ultegra 8050 Di2
Crankset: Shimano Ultegra 52-39 175mm
Pedals: Look Keo2 Max blade 16Nm
Rear derailleur: Shimano Ultegra 8050 Di2
Saddle: Specialized Toupe 143mm
Bottom bracket: Ceramic Speed T45
Extras: Shimano bar-end junction (in right bar end), bluetooth & ANT+ unit (in left bar end), Di2 battery (in seatpost).

viewtopic.php?p=1450642#p1450642

6. User RZack89 6.8kg

Frame kit: Colnago C64 disc
Drivetrain: Sram Force 1x
Cassette: Leonardi Racing General Lee 9-36
Crankset: Easton EC90 sl, 40t direct mount
Power Meter: Easton/Raceface cinch
Bottom Bracket: CeramiSpeed T4530
Pedals: Speedplay tuned (titanium spindles)
Chain: KMC sl11
Handledar+Stem: Dedaelementi Superleggero
Saddle: Selle San Marco Concor Carbon FX
Wheelset: Lightweight Meilenstein disc tubular

viewtopic.php?f=10&t=154072&p=1439465&h ... c#p1439465

7. User billpreston 7kg

[urlhttps://i.imgur.com/iGD6ZXV.png][/url]

viewtopic.php?p=1449126#p1449126

8. User DaveChow 7.1kg

PJWH size 45 w/Ceramicspeed BB
Colnago R41 carbon handlebar and stem
Shimano R9150 groupset
Shimano R9100 power meter
Selle Italia SLR Tekno Flow
Zipp 404 NSW
Schwable 25c Pro One tubeless
Colnago carbon bottle cage

viewtopic.php?f=10&t=155228&p=1459742#p1459742
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by Weenie


AaroninDenver
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by AaroninDenver

Just picked up my C64 disc-integrated cockpit. 52s PBWH, SR9, 3T Ergo LTD, Gelu K1 Saddle, Arundel bar tape and Mandible cages, Dura Ace Groupset, Stages LR, Lighweight Meilenstein C24D, Vittoria Corsa 25mm, Ceramicspeed OSPW and BB. 7.3kg ready to ride. Was hoping to get it under 16 lbs, but did not quite get there. Enjoy your bike!
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scb
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by scb

maxice wrote:
Wed Jan 16, 2019 3:55 pm
I've just been informed of the imminent arrival of my C64 disc (earlier than expected), thought it may be a useful resource to have everyones build specs in one thread to help people like me who can't decide and so they can get an indication of total built up weight.

My spec current spec as follows:

C64 Disc BDBL
Size- 45S
Stem - Colnago R41/SR9 (whatever turns up!)
Handlebars - Colnago R41 (40cm)
Seatpost - Colnago C64
Saddle - Fizik Arione R1
Cages - Colnago Carbon Matte Black
Pedals - DuraAce 9100 SPD-SL

Still to decide on wheels and groupset.

Specs I've found on here :

1. User ride1970 5.78kgs

no specs

https://weightweenies.starbike.com/foru ... 0&t=152307

2. User ymisyd c7.2/7.3kg

C64 Disc PJRD 52S Frame (with headset bearings, without BB) 1082g
C64 Disc fork (uncut steerer) 475g
C64 Seatpost 210g
11-28 DA cassette 197g
DA 11 speed chain (uncut) 255g
Shimano E-tube handlebar junction 20g
50/34 DA chainset 172.5mm 652g
DA 9150 front derailleur 104g
DA 9150 rear derailleur 197g
Colnago SR9 stem 169g
Colnago R41 bars (40cm) 219g
Hutchinson Performance 11 Storm 25mm tyre 238g
DA Di2 shifter left 161g
DA Di2 shifter right 161g
DA 9170 front caliper 115g
DA 9170 rear caliper 115g
DA 160mm rotor (with lock-ring) 138g
DA 140mm rotor (with lock-ring) 117g
Di2 internal battery 56g
Saddle S-Works Power 143mm 159g
Bar tape Fizik superlight (no bar end caps) 75g
Bottom bracket - Ceramicspeed 103g
Di2 cable - Y-split 350/50/450 9g
Di2 Junction B SM-JC41 4g
Di2 cable 1200mm 11g
Di2 cable 1000mm 10g
Di2 cable 650mm 6g
Di2 cable 300mm 3g
Hydraulic hose 1000mm (uncut) 28g
Hydraulic hose 1700mm (uncut) 42g
DA pedals 248g
Colnago bottle cage 30g
Front supplied axle 27g
Rear supplied axle 33g
Roval CLX 50 disc front (with valve and rim-tape) 642g
Roval CLX 50 disc rear (with valve and rim-tape) 771g

https://weightweenies.starbike.com/foru ... 3&t=154972

3. User seedster 7.4kg

Frame: Colnago C64 Disc MkII (56S PKBK)
Seatpost: Colnago
Seat: Berk Lupina Custom
Stem: Colnago R9
Bar: Easton E100
Bartape: Fizik
Bottle cages: Blackburn
Brakes: Campagnolo disc (F:160, R:160)
Front derailleur: Campagnolo Record EPS
Rear derailleur: Campagnolo Record EPS
Crankset: SRM Campagnolo 53/39
Bottom Bracket: Campagnolo BB86
Chain: Campagnolo Record
Shifters: Campagnolo H11 EPS Hydraulic
Cassette: Campagnolo SR 11-29
Wheels: lightweight meilenstein 24D
Tires: Vittoria Corsa G 28mm
Pedals: Look Keo blade 2 Ti

https://weightweenies.starbike.com/foru ... 0&t=152441

4. User guyc 7.14kg

Frameset - C64 PKWH 56”
Stem - 3T Apto Team Stealth 110mm
Bars - 3T SuperErgo Team Stealth carbon 40cm
Saddle - Fizik Antares R1
Wheelset - Campagnolo Bora Ultra 50mm Dark Label
Chainset - Dura-Ace 9100 52/36 175mm with 4iii power meter
Front Mech - Dura-Ace 9150 Di2
Rear Mech - Dura-Ace 9150 Di2
Calipers - Dura-Ace 9100 Direct Mount
Shifters - Dura-Ace 9150 Di2
Pedals - Dura-Ace 9000
Bottom Bracket - C-Bear Ceramic
Bar tape - Fabric Hex
Tyres - Continental GP4000S II 25mm
Tubes - Continental Race Light

https://weightweenies.starbike.com/foru ... 0&t=150909

5. User Robbie84 no weights

Size 58S
Wheels: Prime RP-38 carbon tubeless clinchers
Tyres: Schwalbe Pro-1 tubeless
Sealant: Caffelatex
Bars: Pro Vibe Aero Carbon (40cm)
Stem: Pro Vibe -10 120mm
Garmin mount: K-Edge Pro Vibe mount
Bar tape: Colnago White
Shifters: Shimano Dura-Ace Di2 Disc
Front derailleur: Shimano Ultegra 8050 Di2
Crankset: Shimano Ultegra 52-39 175mm
Pedals: Look Keo2 Max blade 16Nm
Rear derailleur: Shimano Ultegra 8050 Di2
Saddle: Specialized Toupe 143mm
Bottom bracket: Ceramic Speed T45
Extras: Shimano bar-end junction (in right bar end), bluetooth & ANT+ unit (in left bar end), Di2 battery (in seatpost).

https://weightweenies.starbike.com/foru ... 2#p1450642

6. User RZack89 6.8kg

Frame kit: Colnago C64 disc
Drivetrain: Sram Force 1x
Cassette: Leonardi Racing General Lee 9-36
Crankset: Easton EC90 sl, 40t direct mount
Power Meter: Easton/Raceface cinch
Bottom Bracket: CeramiSpeed T4530
Pedals: Speedplay tuned (titanium spindles)
Chain: KMC sl11
Handledar+Stem: Dedaelementi Superleggero
Saddle: Selle San Marco Concor Carbon FX
Wheelset: Lightweight Meilenstein disc tubular

https://weightweenies.starbike.com/foru ... c#p1439465

7. User billpreston 7kg

[urlhttps://i.imgur.com/iGD6ZXV.png][/url]

https://weightweenies.starbike.com/foru ... 6#p1449126
Building up my Art Decor Blue disc with internal routing right now. Went with the following:

SR 12 speed (will upgrade / convert to EPS v4 when out)
Enve 3.4 DT Swiss hubs (no CK option for Campy freehubs on disc)
Enve 5.6 DT Swiss hubs
Schwalbe Pro 1 tubeless tires 25mm
3T Superergo Limited Stealth Bar
Colnago SR9 stem (only one that's internal)
Garmin Vector 3 pedals
Fizik Antares 00 Evo saddle
Supacaz bar tape (cushioned / gel version)

maxice
Posts: 86
Joined: Wed Aug 15, 2018 11:05 pm

by maxice

scb wrote:
Fri Jan 18, 2019 4:18 pm
Building up my Art Decor Blue disc with internal routing right now. Went with the following:

SR 12 speed (will upgrade / convert to EPS v4 when out)
Enve 3.4 DT Swiss hubs (no CK option for Campy freehubs on disc)
Enve 5.6 DT Swiss hubs
Schwalbe Pro 1 tubeless tires 25mm
3T Superergo Limited Stealth Bar
Colnago SR9 stem (only one that's internal)
Garmin Vector 3 pedals
Fizik Antares 00 Evo saddle
Supacaz bar tape (cushioned / gel version)
[/quote]

Any issues with the internal routing for the mechanical system? I called up chickencycle service centre and they've said they've built one up, was more difficult but can be done. They didnt have any issues.

scb
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Joined: Wed May 27, 2009 4:16 pm

by scb

Maxice, LBS is waiting for some feedback from Campy USA before they start building it up. Also, still waiting for wheelsets from Enve. With the year end holidays, it’s taking a long time (6 weeks so far). In case it’s useful, could you let me know where Chickencycle is located? I looked online and closest name that I saw was Chicken Cyclekit in the UK. Thanks.

maxice
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by maxice

scb wrote:
Wed Jan 23, 2019 4:08 pm
Maxice, LBS is waiting for some feedback from Campy USA before they start building it up. Also, still waiting for wheelsets from Enve. With the year end holidays, it’s taking a long time (6 weeks so far). In case it’s useful, could you let me know where Chickencycle is located? I looked online and closest name that I saw was Chicken Cyclekit in the UK. Thanks.
Yes chickencyclekit in the UK, they are one of the UK campag distributors. The service centre is part of them.

https://www.campagnoloservicecentre.co.uk/

scb
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by scb

maxice wrote:
Wed Jan 23, 2019 5:45 pm
scb wrote:
Wed Jan 23, 2019 4:08 pm
Maxice, LBS is waiting for some feedback from Campy USA before they start building it up. Also, still waiting for wheelsets from Enve. With the year end holidays, it’s taking a long time (6 weeks so far). In case it’s useful, could you let me know where Chickencycle is located? I looked online and closest name that I saw was Chicken Cyclekit in the UK. Thanks.
Yes chickencyclekit in the UK, they are one of the UK campag distributors. The service centre is part of them.

https://www.campagnoloservicecentre.co.uk/
Thanks. I've passed that on to LBS.

ymisyd
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Joined: Mon Nov 20, 2017 12:16 am

by ymisyd

maxice wrote:
Wed Jan 23, 2019 3:27 pm
scb wrote:
Fri Jan 18, 2019 4:18 pm
Building up my Art Decor Blue disc with internal routing right now. Went with the following:

SR 12 speed (will upgrade / convert to EPS v4 when out)
Enve 3.4 DT Swiss hubs (no CK option for Campy freehubs on disc)
Enve 5.6 DT Swiss hubs
Schwalbe Pro 1 tubeless tires 25mm
3T Superergo Limited Stealth Bar
Colnago SR9 stem (only one that's internal)
Garmin Vector 3 pedals
Fizik Antares 00 Evo saddle
Supacaz bar tape (cushioned / gel version)
Any issues with the internal routing for the mechanical system? I called up chickencycle service centre and they've said they've built one up, was more difficult but can be done. They didnt have any issues.
[/quote]

I struggled to get the hydraulic and Di2 cables through the underside piece of the stem, and it still doesn't sit flush. How on earth are they going to fit mechanical cables in there as well? I would love to know....

scb
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by scb

Couldn't get mechanical cables through the stem. So, internal routing of shifting cables will have to wait for EPS v4. Waiting for LBS to text me some photos so I can how it looks.

Having another issue--rear wheel through axle is having frame clearance issues. LBS got it through but said there is no way I would be able to get it off or put it back through to fix a flat while a ride. Might have too much paint in the area is what they are thinking, and they are waiting to hear back from Colnago on what to do. After waiting 10 months and having it built up, I wouldn't be very happy if the frame has to go back to Campy.

maxice
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by maxice

scb wrote:
Fri Jan 25, 2019 10:26 pm
Couldn't get mechanical cables through the stem. So, internal routing of shifting cables will have to wait for EPS v4. Waiting for LBS to text me some photos so I can how it looks.

Having another issue--rear wheel through axle is having frame clearance issues. LBS got it through but said there is no way I would be able to get it off or put it back through to fix a flat while a ride. Might have too much paint in the area is what they are thinking, and they are waiting to hear back from Colnago on what to do. After waiting 10 months and having it built up, I wouldn't be very happy if the frame has to go back to Campy.
Thats not good news. Surprised they dont test these before being shipped out? Mines at the dealer, so maybe should ask them to check!

I've decided to go for EPS on mine so hopefully that will work better with the internal routing

ymisyd
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by ymisyd

I knew you wouldn't get mechanical cables through that stem. There just isn't enough room and I wouldn't be comfortable with the sharp bend anyway. In fact, the lower piece of mine doesn't sit flush with hydraulic and Di2 cables going through, and I still say there will be issues with the securing screw nearest the stem chafing the cables somewhere down the line.

Maxice, if you want to edit my build weight, I've weighed it at 7.245kg on the road (pedals, cages x2, Garmin mount and speed sensor etc.).

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ymisyd
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by ymisyd

scb wrote:Couldn't get mechanical cables through the stem. So, internal routing of shifting cables will have to wait for EPS v4. Waiting for LBS to text me some photos so I can how it looks.

Having another issue--rear wheel through axle is having frame clearance issues. LBS got it through but said there is no way I would be able to get it off or put it back through to fix a flat while a ride. Might have too much paint in the area is what they are thinking, and they are waiting to hear back from Colnago on what to do. After waiting 10 months and having it built up, I wouldn't be very happy if the frame has to go back to Campy.
Just a thought, but I reckon you could do away with the plastic channel that affixes to the underside of the stem and use the supplied spacers instead. Is it worth asking the LBS to look into it? It won't be as neat but if you heatshrink the cables together I reckon it would look ok.

Regarding the rear axle, I had, or thought I had, the same issue. The tolerances seem extremely tight and the way to get the axle through is to not try and force it. The gentler and more patient you are, you will get a feel for it and it will go. The slightest misalignment of the wheel and it will never go. It might be easier with the bike on the ground and a gentle wiggle as you try to insert the axle. It's still not as free to slide in as the front, but I'm no longer cursing Colnago for sending me a "misaligned" frameset.

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scb
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by scb

ymisyd wrote:
Sat Jan 26, 2019 12:15 pm
scb wrote:Couldn't get mechanical cables through the stem. So, internal routing of shifting cables will have to wait for EPS v4. Waiting for LBS to text me some photos so I can how it looks.

Having another issue--rear wheel through axle is having frame clearance issues. LBS got it through but said there is no way I would be able to get it off or put it back through to fix a flat while a ride. Might have too much paint in the area is what they are thinking, and they are waiting to hear back from Colnago on what to do. After waiting 10 months and having it built up, I wouldn't be very happy if the frame has to go back to Campy.
Just a thought, but I reckon you could do away with the plastic channel that affixes to the underside of the stem and use the supplied spacers instead. Is it worth asking the LBS to look into it? It won't be as neat but if you heatshrink the cables together I reckon it would look ok.

Regarding the rear axle, I had, or thought I had, the same issue. The tolerances seem extremely tight and the way to get the axle through is to not try and force it. The gentler and more patient you are, you will get a feel for it and it will go. The slightest misalignment of the wheel and it will never go. It might be easier with the bike on the ground and a gentle wiggle as you try to insert the axle. It's still not as free to slide in as the front, but I'm no longer cursing Colnago for sending me a "misaligned" frameset.

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Thanks for the advice. I will pass this on to LBS.

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