Time Xpro 12 vs Shimano Dura Ace pedals
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Do you mean pedal-cleat Q factor adjustment?
If so SPD SL has 5mm free adjusment and keo has 4mm free, while iclic only has 2.5mm fixed adjuatment by switch left/right
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And Shimano also makes their DA and Ultegra pedals with two different axle lengths - a std axle with a Q of 52mm and the +4mm axle which pushes the Q out to 56mm.
I run both systems on different bikes currently. Long history with Time pedals on Campagnolo groups, like back in the Equipe Mag days. However, the Dura-Ace pedals just give a more stable powerful connection, especially with Bont shoes but also with Sidi, just not as pronounced. I would go with Dura-Ace pedals on all my bikes if I had it to do over. Don't think the Times are bad enough to pull them off and replace them now though, still good pedals, just not as good as D-A.
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aeroisnteverything wrote: ↑Sun Mar 31, 2019 2:16 am3. Time. I bought and tried a set of Xpro 12. Fully agree with everything Cal said about them.
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Is there a difference between Xpro 15 (ceramic bearings) and Xpro 12 (steel bearings) in the propensity for the pedal to hang upside down after unclipping and rotating the crank? Xpro 12 often seems to hang upside down, and not be ready for immediate clip-in, whereas RXS Carbon-Ti/Ulteam always stayed upright. I have not tried Xpro 15. Removing the aero cover on the underside of Xpro 12 does not seem to make things better.AJS914 wrote: ↑Sat May 09, 2020 1:15 pmThe only thing I don't like about my X-Pro 10s is that there is some stiction in the bearing seals so they don't hang exactly right when not clipped in. My 10s are pretty new so I'm hoping they will loosen up. Or, maybe I could replace the bearings some day. If one goes for the 15s they could with ceramicspeed bearings - probably not worth it but I'm guessing they will spin freely.
Yes Xpro 15 can hang down correctly in 95% time. There is a very narrow angle window where it can stay wrong, which however is still not as good as Dura Ace.HammerTime2 wrote: ↑Fri Nov 20, 2020 4:47 pmIs there a difference between Xpro 15 (ceramic bearings) and Xpro 12 (steel bearings) in the propensity for the pedal to hang upside down after unclipping and rotating the crank? Xpro 12 often seems to hang upside down, and not be ready for immediate clip-in, whereas RXS Carbon-Ti/Ulteam always stayed upright. I have not tried Xpro 15. Removing the aero cover on the underside of Xpro 12 does not seem to make things better.
My left Xpro15 bearing has already started to seize after minimal outdoor use (<1000km). Not great for £400...
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Dear Sram.
Please use Blackbox ceramic bearings from your drivetrain department in the updated Xpro pedals.
Maybe integrate some axle/hub expertise from your Zipp wheel department into a more clever bearing design too.
But please, do not use problematic bushing (that develop play easily) from Rockshox department.
It'd be good if you can also talk to Quarq department to add power meter to the pedal as well.
Please use Blackbox ceramic bearings from your drivetrain department in the updated Xpro pedals.
Maybe integrate some axle/hub expertise from your Zipp wheel department into a more clever bearing design too.
But please, do not use problematic bushing (that develop play easily) from Rockshox department.
It'd be good if you can also talk to Quarq department to add power meter to the pedal as well.
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I rode a set of Time Xpresso X12 pedals for 5 years befofe I wore them out. In that 7 years I went thru 2 sets of bearings, 1 pedal body and a fair number of broken cleats. Went to Look carbon/ti Keo's and hated them. I would always have to flip them in order to get into the pedal. I switched to Shimano 9100 pedals 3 or 4 years ago and have been very satisfied since I made the change. I ride in several sets of shoes and change cleats about once a year on all shoes. I have the same pedal on both my road bikes and three years or more later they are still buttery smooth and pedal entry is thoughtless.Not a fan of Shimano yet they do make a great pedal.
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My first Time pedal was a Time Impact Magnesium and I use an xpresso now. My knee is still perfect...
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