*Tour Aero Bike Test 2019*

Discuss light weight issues concerning road bikes & parts.
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Dr.Dos
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by Dr.Dos

rudye9mr wrote:
Thu Aug 06, 2020 5:46 pm
Would like to see the blade 795 rs in that test..
219W with Corima 47WS and 404.

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by rudye9mr

ty - link to test pls?

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by rudye9mr

Beautiful - will link this in the blade rs thread - thanks again

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by C36

TiCass wrote:"2018 Canondale SuperSix HiMod 218W"

That seams way too good for the old Cannondale. That must be the 2019 model.
Yes it’s the evo3 (219 with stock wheels). Evo2 was 227 (with Enve wheels mechanical DA and all cables out)


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rudye9mr
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by rudye9mr

RANK MAKE YEAR WATTS @ 45KPH

01 Cannondale SystemSix Disc 2019 203
02 Specialized Venge ViAS 2016 204
02 Trek Madone 2016 204
04 Cervelo S5 2016 205
04 Felt AR FRD 2016 205
06 Cervelo S5 Disc 2019 206
06 Factor One 2018 206
08 Canyon Aeroad 2016 208
08 Specialized Venge Disc 2019 208
10 Giant Propel Advanced SL 2016 210
10 Specialized Tarmac SL7 S-Works 2020 210
12 BMC Time Machine 2016 211
12 Pinarello Dogma F12 2018 211
12 Scott Foil Premium 2016 211
15 Look 795 2016 212
15 Trek Madone Disc 2019 212
17 Ridley Noah Fast Disc 2019 213
18 Canondale SuperSix HiMod 2018 218
18 EddyMerckx 525 Disc 2019 218
** LOOK Blade 795 RS Disc 2018 219
20 Specialized Allez Spint 2019 219
20 Scott Addict Premium 2019 219
22 Wilier Zero SLR 2020 220
23 Canyon Ultimate 9.0 2018 224
24 Giant TCR Advanced 2019 227

Added the data to list (blade 795 rs disc)

ichobi
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by ichobi

Would it be possible to add the wheels and bars used in these test? I know it's a lot. But it would really help understanding the number in more nuanced ways.

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by demoCRIT

Dr.Dos wrote:
Thu Aug 06, 2020 6:59 pm
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any info on Bianchi XR4?

Unniti
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by Unniti

Does anyone have the numbers for the SL6 Tarmac or Factor O2 (VAM)?

spartan
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by spartan

the pinarello f12 numbers are quite good with shimano c40 wheelsets at 211 watts. replace them with zipp/enve/roval and you can be sub 208watts. did Tour Mag test the f12 with zipp 404's ?
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ichobi
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by ichobi

Iirc, the dogma was tested with Mavic very deep rims, not a c40 no? They did test with 404.

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rudye9mr wrote:
Thu Aug 06, 2020 7:40 pm
RANK MAKE YEAR WATTS @ 45KPH

01 Cannondale SystemSix Disc 2019 203
02 Specialized Venge ViAS 2016 204
02 Trek Madone 2016 204
04 Cervelo S5 2016 205
04 Felt AR FRD 2016 205
06 Cervelo S5 Disc 2019 206
06 Factor One 2018 206
08 Canyon Aeroad 2016 208
08 Specialized Venge Disc 2019 208
10 Giant Propel Advanced SL 2016 210
10 Specialized Tarmac SL7 S-Works 2020 210
12 BMC Time Machine 2016 211
12 Pinarello Dogma F12 2018 211
12 Scott Foil Premium 2016 211
15 Look 795 2016 212
15 Trek Madone Disc 2019 212
17 Ridley Noah Fast Disc 2019 213
18 Canondale SuperSix HiMod 2018 218
18 EddyMerckx 525 Disc 2019 218
** LOOK Blade 795 RS Disc 2018 219
20 Specialized Allez Spint 2019 219
20 Scott Addict Premium 2019 219
22 Wilier Zero SLR 2020 220
23 Canyon Ultimate 9.0 2018 224
24 Giant TCR Advanced 2019 227

Added the data to list (blade 795 rs disc)
Cervelo S5 Disc was tested at 205W in the latest issue and at 204 Watts upon release.

There is no Pinarello F12 from 2018, it's a 2020 F12 with rim brakes

BMC Timemachien Road 01 Two was tested at 210W in their latest issue (it's the 2019 model)

The Canyon Aeroad Disc (which is the 2018 model) was tested at 208W

The Ridley Noah was tested at 212 W, not 213W

Are we looking at different tests or is this on purpose?
Cervélo S5 Disc (2019) - 7.8kg
Open Cycles WI.DE (2019) - 8.5kg
Specialized Shiv TT Disc (2020) - 7.9kg
Specialized SW Roubaix Team (2020) - 7.3kg (successor — SOON —)

*all weights include pedals, computer mounts, and bottle cages.

FlatlandClimber
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by FlatlandClimber

Don't they test all the bike with standardized wheels (ZIPP 404?)
Cervélo S5 Disc (2019) - 7.8kg
Open Cycles WI.DE (2019) - 8.5kg
Specialized Shiv TT Disc (2020) - 7.9kg
Specialized SW Roubaix Team (2020) - 7.3kg (successor — SOON —)

*all weights include pedals, computer mounts, and bottle cages.

robeambro
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by robeambro

If I'm not mistaken it was the cda values that were measured as such (but they don't publish them anymore I think), but the wattage comparisons were with stock wheels.

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ichobi
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by ichobi

Yes all the cda published is with stock wheels. They used to make a 404 cda charts for most of the big test but probably not anymore or one that I could find.

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