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This is severely off topic, but I bet that a Palatov D1 or a Radical Turbo will run rings around any tube framed V8 on any track. I stand by my opinion that it's much easier to buy speed in motor racing than in cycling.RocketRacing wrote: ↑Mon Jan 14, 2019 1:09 pm
Disagree. Depends on your level of competition of course, or the track. Our local track is pretty twisty (no real straights) so it is harder to buy speed, and grip is king. Lots of locals do really well in lightweight, low powered cars, often home built. And for the cost of a p5x, a properly set up tube frame car with a big v8 will be as fast as anything out there on just about any track.
Basically, my point is that there's no bike that I could build that would make me as fast as only my faster club colleagues. Whereas when I was racing cars, I always knew which upgrades would have shaved 3 or 5s off my lap times in my Seven or S2000
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A properly set up radical is a weapon. I was on track at silverstone with many... and lots of other fast toys. No question it would crush a tube frame v8. We had one with a turbo s2000 engine at our track, and when it was working... it was just toying with us (i was in a 100k+ E36 bmw m3). it was actually too stiff for our track. But the v8 will get you racing quick at a cheap price. But yeah, vs proper downforce cars racecars... wrong league or car.Marin wrote: ↑Mon Jan 14, 2019 5:08 pmThis is severely off topic, but I bet that a Palatov D1 or a Radical Turbo will run rings around any tube framed V8 on any track. I stand by my opinion that it's much easier to buy speed in motor racing than in cycling.RocketRacing wrote: ↑Mon Jan 14, 2019 1:09 pm
Disagree. Depends on your level of competition of course, or the track. Our local track is pretty twisty (no real straights) so it is harder to buy speed, and grip is king. Lots of locals do really well in lightweight, low powered cars, often home built. And for the cost of a p5x, a properly set up tube frame car with a big v8 will be as fast as anything out there on just about any track.
Basically, my point is that there's no bike that I could build that would make me as fast as only my faster club colleagues. Whereas when I was racing cars, I always knew which upgrades would have shaved 3 or 5s off my lap times in my Seven or S2000
Also, a caterham superlight r with a duratec swap is on my bucketlist. I figure i should be able to get one from thr uk for felt track bike money. Haha
A crappy driver with a fast car will still get beat by an ok car with a great driver... as long as it is not a power track. But i agree with your point.
Bikes are like 90% rider, 10% bike. Racing cars is more 50/50.
Lets not get off topic, but this is pure LOL. It's pretty much 90/10 for cars too.RocketRacing wrote: ↑Mon Jan 14, 2019 5:55 pmBikes are like 90% rider, 10% bike. Racing cars is more 50/50.
I've done a low 8 BTG at the 'Ring in a 160bhp sh!t box CRX, beating Ferrar's, Lambos etc.
Anyway, the new Ridley Noah seems to be doing alright at the TDU...
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Without a video, I can't believe your claim, sorry. Even with a video I will have a hard time. 160hp in a fast track like the ring doing low eights?? I would not believe it even if your surname is Hamilton.ryanw wrote:Lets not get off topic, but this is pure LOL. It's pretty much 90/10 for cars too.RocketRacing wrote: ↑Mon Jan 14, 2019 5:55 pmBikes are like 90% rider, 10% bike. Racing cars is more 50/50.
I've done a low 8 BTG at the 'Ring in a 160bhp sh!t box CRX, beating Ferrar's, Lambos etc.
Anyway, the new Ridley Noah seems to be doing alright at the TDU...
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Put hamelton in a crx, and stroll in a f1 car... time the laps, and then tell me if it is 90% driver. But then that is a bad example, because all the f1 drivers are in the 99.99% of drivers. For them, small differences in a car or driver win or lose races.ryanw wrote: ↑Mon Jan 14, 2019 6:08 pmLets not get off topic, but this is pure LOL. It's pretty much 90/10 for cars too.RocketRacing wrote: ↑Mon Jan 14, 2019 5:55 pmBikes are like 90% rider, 10% bike. Racing cars is more 50/50.
I've done a low 8 BTG at the 'Ring in a 160bhp sh!t box CRX, beating Ferrar's, Lambos etc.
Anyway, the new Ridley Noah seems to be doing alright at the TDU...
Take two equal drivers, put one in a faster car... the faster car wins. How much do they win by? How much faster is the car? You can always buy more grip, more downforce, more powerful engines. Lets call that relationship 50:50. A better driver will make you faster to a point (limited bt the car), and a faster car will make you faster to a point (limited by the driver).
Ebikes... well, that is a different story, and an usue for the future.
You’re 34, you have everything to prove.ryanw wrote:Removed due to realising I'm 34 and have nothing to prove.
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Hahahaha. I love this thread.
Says the guy with the user name calnago. Proper boomer dentist bike.
All in jest. I have nothing to prove... just want to enjoy life before i am fat and bald. Hahaha
[removed] but please stop... for the sake of this forum. We are all here because we love bikesRocketRacing wrote: ↑Mon Jan 14, 2019 7:38 pmHahahaha. I love this thread.
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All in jest. I have nothing to prove... just want to enjoy life before i am fat and bald. Hahaha
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Quoted for truth! Hahaha
But i made all the grace i have, and try to not take it too seriously.
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