*Tour Aero Bike Test 2019*

Discuss light weight issues concerning road bikes & parts.
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ryanw
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Thought I’d share this for you lovely folk.

Shock results from the Ridley!

Cannondale definitely did their research in the wind tunnel...

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'16 Cervelo S5 - 6,650g RIP
'17 Focus Mares Force 1 - 7,170g
'19 Cervelo S5 Disc - 7,460g

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Wonder why the CDale BB did so bad considering CDale said they hit their goal for it?

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ryanw
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All tested at 45kph:

2019 Cannondale SystemSix Disc - 203w
2016 Trek Madone - 204w
2016 Specialized Venge ViAS - 204w
2016 Cervelo S5 - 205w
2016 Felt AR FRD - 205w
2019 Cervelo S5 Disc - 206w
2016 Canyon Aeroad - 208w
2019 Specialized Venge Disc - 208w
2016 Giant Propel Advanced SL - 210w
2016 Scott Foil Premium - 211w
2016 BMC Time Machine - 211w
2016 Look 795 - 212w
2019 Trek Madone Disc - 212w
2019 Ridley Noah Fast Disc - 213w
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'16 Cervelo S5 - 6,650g RIP
'17 Focus Mares Force 1 - 7,170g
'19 Cervelo S5 Disc - 7,460g

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spdntrxi
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Cdale also uses 23c tires.. so no ballon effect on leading edge... everyone else uses 25+

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CAAD8FRED wrote:
Tue Dec 18, 2018 10:56 pm
Wonder why the CDale BB did so bad considering CDale said they hit their goal for it?
It did badly? Looks to be very stiff at 101Nm, bested by the S5 but with the stiffest Headtube and fairly competitive seatpost flex.

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spdntrxi wrote:
Tue Dec 18, 2018 11:25 pm
Cdale also uses 23c tires.. so no ballon effect on leading edge... everyone else uses 25+
All tests are on Zipp 404s with same tyres to make it fair.

2019 Cervelo S5 Disc was 3w SLOWER with its standard DT Swiss 50mm wheels.
'16 Cervelo S5 - 6,650g RIP
'17 Focus Mares Force 1 - 7,170g
'19 Cervelo S5 Disc - 7,460g

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VTR1000SP2 wrote:
Tue Dec 18, 2018 11:28 pm
CAAD8FRED wrote:
Tue Dec 18, 2018 10:56 pm
Wonder why the CDale BB did so bad considering CDale said they hit their goal for it?
It did badly? Looks to be very stiff at 101Nm, bested by the S5 but with the stiffest Headtube and fairly competitive seatpost flex.
I meant the one where they scored 3.0. Is that HT? Again, maybe Tour has a different standard than CDale which is why Tour penalized it but CDale wanted it.

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Can’t wait to see how fast the non-disc System-Six is :lol:

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lol, for Reifen they give the German brand 1.0 and everyone else is worse.

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the madone numbers don't make any sense. it goes from 204W rim brake version to 212W . can anyone translate madone test results.
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ryanw wrote:All tested at 45kph on Zipp 404s:
So... except for the new SystemSix, all of the fastest bikes are with rim brakes.

And all 2016 rim brake aero bikes are faster than their respective 2019 disc versions.

It would be interesting to to see if a 2019 rim brake Madone would have improved over the 2016 one.

And it would be quite entertaining to see what would happen if UCI dropped the 6.8 kg weight limit now...

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spartan wrote:the madone numbers don't make any sense. it goes from 204W rim brake version to 212W . can anyone translate madone test results.
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Monkeyfudger
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Got to have something to sell in the next product cycle, that’s likely when they’ll lower the weight limit and tell us we need rim brakes again.

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Well, it's a shame the Cannondale is so heavy.
I want to see the new Cervelo S3 Rim tested.

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spartan wrote:
Wed Dec 19, 2018 12:21 am
the madone numbers don't make any sense. it goes from 204W rim brake version to 212W . can anyone translate madone test results.
yes - discs are slower; pretty much end of story.
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