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Re: Campagnolo Potenza vs Shimano R7000/R8000

Posted: Sat Jun 13, 2020 7:46 pm
by Ritxis
Camapgnolo will stop producing the potenza groupset......

Re: Campagnolo Potenza vs Shimano R7000/R8000

Posted: Sat Jun 13, 2020 7:46 pm
by Weenie

Re: Campagnolo Potenza vs Shimano R7000/R8000

Posted: Sat Jun 13, 2020 8:45 pm
by Mockenrue
Since when?

Re: Campagnolo Potenza vs Shimano R7000/R8000

Posted: Sat Jun 13, 2020 8:51 pm
by Ritxis
Mockenrue wrote:
Sat Jun 13, 2020 8:45 pm
Since when?
I don't know, the information comes from a mechanic (ex-pro) who works or is related to Campagnolo Iberica (distributor in Spain)

Re: Campagnolo Potenza vs Shimano R7000/R8000

Posted: Sat Jun 13, 2020 11:03 pm
by flying
Ritxis wrote:
Sat Jun 13, 2020 7:46 pm
Camapgnolo will stop producing the potenza groupset......
That would be surprising

I could imagine them dropping Centaur eventually but Potenza?
I would be surprised :noidea:

Re: Campagnolo Potenza vs Shimano R7000/R8000

Posted: Sun Jun 14, 2020 8:22 am
by bm0p700f
Potenza is going sadly. Camapag are trying to cut the number of skus and spares I believe. They have realised they have too many parts and costing them a fortune.

Re: Campagnolo Potenza vs Shimano R7000/R8000

Posted: Sun Jun 14, 2020 9:52 am
by nachetetm
My understanding from the forums is that Campy is releasing a two new groupsets, a1X and a "classic-looking" one that would replace potenza, perhaps with 12 speed.

Re: Campagnolo Potenza vs Shimano R7000/R8000

Posted: Sun Jun 14, 2020 10:59 am
by robertbb
bm0p700f wrote:
Sun Jun 14, 2020 8:22 am
Potenza is going sadly. Camapag are trying to cut the number of skus and spares I believe. They have realised they have too many parts and costing them a fortune.
Does that mean power-shift is basically done, too?

Re: Campagnolo Potenza vs Shimano R7000/R8000

Posted: Sun Jun 14, 2020 11:58 am
by petromyzon
Hope they continue making a classic looking grouppo in silver colour. It seems that silver Potenza bits have been tough to get sometimes so I wonder if they have really capitalised upon the demand for the product.

Would be nice to see them do what SRAM have decided against and release a 1x12 cable operated groupset with options for hydraulic and cable brakes.

Reducing Skus would be great for profits and for the environment. Surely they could start by rationalising the top end? Do they really need Chorus, Record and SR in electronic and mechanical?

Re: Campagnolo Potenza vs Shimano R7000/R8000

Posted: Sun Jun 14, 2020 1:16 pm
by gorkypl
Yep, having EPS in SR only fits this approach, and even makes quite sense. Seems they decided to go the 'boutique' way, targeting custom and top end bikes only, and abandoning OEM market. I hope this will turn out to be a correct business decision.

Re 1x - I'm personally not interested, 2x Chorus was perfectly fine for gravel, if only there was a 11-37 rear cassette and they made shifters from some harder plastic.

Re: Campagnolo Potenza vs Shimano R7000/R8000

Posted: Sun Jun 14, 2020 6:05 pm
by flying
robertbb wrote:
Sun Jun 14, 2020 10:59 am
Does that mean power-shift is basically done, too?
That would be sad :cry: I really love that drooped lever shape
Especially when on the hoods your inside of your thumb lays on it so nicely not like
a 90 degree shelf


But Centaur also has power shift so unless they do away with both

Re: Campagnolo Potenza vs Shimano R7000/R8000

Posted: Sun Jun 14, 2020 6:08 pm
by flying
bm0p700f wrote:
Sun Jun 14, 2020 8:22 am
Potenza is going sadly. Camapag are trying to cut the number of skus and spares I believe. They have realized they have too many parts and costing them a fortune.

Well that is a pity & I thought it was a nice all alloy group.
Although I confess that crank was too heave at 800 @ 810grams & I switched the Potenza crank out to a H11 @ 636gr

But overall I thought Potenza was a handsome group & except for crank weight were within reason

Re: Campagnolo Potenza vs Shimano R7000/R8000

Posted: Sun Jun 14, 2020 6:31 pm
by Vespasianus
bm0p700f wrote:
Sun Jun 14, 2020 8:22 am
Potenza is going sadly. Camapag are trying to cut the number of skus and spares I believe. They have realised they have too many parts and costing them a fortune.
Honestly, I am not surprised. The review on Velonews, which basically said it was no Ultegra and only marginally better than 105, was harsh to say the least. And everybody wants disc brakes. Shimano disc brakes are rock solid. Easy to set up, easy to work on, consistent and reliable.

Re: Campagnolo Potenza vs Shimano R7000/R8000

Posted: Sun Jun 14, 2020 7:46 pm
by JoO
bm0p700f wrote:
Sun Jun 14, 2020 8:22 am
Potenza is going sadly. Camapag are trying to cut the number of skus and spares I believe. They have realised they have too many parts and costing them a fortune.
A pity but understandable. Campagnolo hoped Potenza would be an oem alternative for ultegra.
I guess they will go the boutique way.
The boutique market might be big enough for them.

Re: Campagnolo Potenza vs Shimano R7000/R8000

Posted: Sun Jun 14, 2020 8:25 pm
by c60rider
Vespasianus wrote:
Sun Jun 14, 2020 6:31 pm
bm0p700f wrote:
Sun Jun 14, 2020 8:22 am
Potenza is going sadly. Camapag are trying to cut the number of skus and spares I believe. They have realised they have too many parts and costing them a fortune.
And everybody wants disc brakes.
Not everyone :lol:

Re: Campagnolo Potenza vs Shimano R7000/R8000

Posted: Sun Jun 14, 2020 8:25 pm
by Weenie

Re: Campagnolo Potenza vs Shimano R7000/R8000

Posted: Sun Jun 14, 2020 8:50 pm
by flying
c60rider wrote:
Sun Jun 14, 2020 8:25 pm
Vespasianus wrote:
Sun Jun 14, 2020 6:31 pm
bm0p700f wrote:
Sun Jun 14, 2020 8:22 am
Potenza is going sadly. Camapag are trying to cut the number of skus and spares I believe. They have realised they have too many parts and costing them a fortune.
And everybody wants disc brakes.
Not everyone :lol:
:lol: :lol: exactly :beerchug: