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Re: New Continental 5000S Tires - Tubeless Compatible

Posted: Sun May 19, 2019 9:44 pm
by Butcher
The only place the air could be leaking from my rims would be the valve stem/hole and bead. There are no nipple holes.

Again, I have no experience with sealer or tubeless, but I'm turned off with how messy it gets when the sealer does not do it's job. There was one member that was on my team that had tubeless and when he developed a leak, the sealer did not work. It was a real mess on the side of the road while he was installing a tube. There was also sealer all over his bike as it was trying to work.

Assuming I have no leaks in my set up, the only leak I would get is a puncture and I would rather carry a tube. Thanks or sharing your information. Soon I will go on a ride and see how far I get.

Re: New Continental 5000S Tires - Tubeless Compatible

Posted: Sun May 19, 2019 9:44 pm
by Weenie

Re: New Continental 5000S Tires - Tubeless Compatible

Posted: Sun May 19, 2019 9:52 pm
by TobinHatesYou
Second GP5K TL killed by a pothole in a NorCal road race. Not even sure I’m going to mount the last one I’ve got.

Re: New Continental 5000S Tires - Tubeless Compatible

Posted: Mon May 20, 2019 12:12 am
by pdlpsher1
TobinHatesYou wrote:
Sun May 19, 2019 9:52 pm
Second GP5K TL killed by a pothole in a NorCal road race. Not even sure I’m going to mount the last one I’ve got.
If the roads you ride on are that bad you should be on 28mm not 25mm. The GP5K 25mm measures closer to the GP4K 23mm. I'm running the tubed GP5K 28mm and have no issues with giant potholes, etc.

Re: New Continental 5000S Tires - Tubeless Compatible

Posted: Mon May 20, 2019 12:18 am
by jlok
TobinHatesYou wrote:
Sun May 19, 2019 9:52 pm
Second GP5K TL killed by a pothole in a NorCal road race. Not even sure I’m going to mount the last one I’ve got.
any picture of the damage? what's the mileage?

Re: New Continental 5000S Tires - Tubeless Compatible

Posted: Mon May 20, 2019 2:16 am
by TobinHatesYou
pdlpsher1 wrote:
Mon May 20, 2019 12:12 am
TobinHatesYou wrote:
Sun May 19, 2019 9:52 pm
Second GP5K TL killed by a pothole in a NorCal road race. Not even sure I’m going to mount the last one I’ve got.
If the roads you ride on are that bad you should be on 28mm not 25mm. The GP5K 25mm measures closer to the GP4K 23mm. I'm running the tubed GP5K 28mm and have no issues with giant potholes, etc.

I definitely agree that I should just ignore the 105% rule with my 5.6s at this point. I’ll probably just try 28mm Corsas on the 5.6s and 30mm Corsa Controls on my 202s next.

Re: New Continental 5000S Tires - Tubeless Compatible

Posted: Mon May 20, 2019 4:38 am
by pdlpsher1
Did you run too low of a pressure on the 25? Maybe the low pressure and the narrow width doomed the tire.

Re: New Continental 5000S Tires - Tubeless Compatible

Posted: Mon May 20, 2019 5:15 am
by Sock3t
TobinHatesYou wrote:
Sun May 19, 2019 9:52 pm
Second GP5K TL killed by a pothole in a NorCal road race. Not even sure I’m going to mount the last one I’ve got.
I slammed a pothole so hard last Wednesday my bars moved. Scared the shit out of me.

Pulled over, fixed up my bars. Pulled the front wheel and checked it for cracks and the tyre as well.

Everything was fine - on 28's with FSE rims.

Re: New Continental 5000S Tires - Tubeless Compatible

Posted: Tue May 21, 2019 4:57 pm
by pdlpsher1
Just watched this video. In reading the comments it seems people have a better experience in mounting these on non-Enve rims. So is it the tire or the rim to blame?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-BPuYF9f7uA

Re: New Continental 5000S Tires - Tubeless Compatible

Posted: Tue May 21, 2019 6:00 pm
by zefs
From having tested different tubeless tires the GP5K has the stiffest casing (I mean it doesn't stretch) and thickest beads which makes it very hard to mount on some wheels.
Maybe it's not an issue since tubeless tires are supposed to stay put until replaced or removed to patch a puncture at home.

Re: New Continental 5000S Tires - Tubeless Compatible

Posted: Sat May 25, 2019 10:11 pm
by TobinHatesYou
I forgot to mention that a long black thread along the circumference of the tire right above the bead frayed off my tire at some point.

Re: New Continental 5000S Tires - Tubeless Compatible

Posted: Sat May 25, 2019 11:58 pm
by Sock3t
pdlpsher1 wrote:
Tue May 21, 2019 4:57 pm
Just watched this video. In reading the comments it seems people have a better experience in mounting these on non-Enve rims. So is it the tire or the rim to blame?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-BPuYF9f7uA
Wow, that guy isn't too bright. I'd hamper a thought that he's either on the spectrum or not all his dogs are barking. Enve has said these tyres are NOT compatitble with their wheels.

Re: New Continental 5000S Tires - Tubeless Compatible

Posted: Sun May 26, 2019 12:06 am
by spdntrxi
Sock3t wrote:
Sat May 25, 2019 11:58 pm
pdlpsher1 wrote:
Tue May 21, 2019 4:57 pm
Just watched this video. In reading the comments it seems people have a better experience in mounting these on non-Enve rims. So is it the tire or the rim to blame?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-BPuYF9f7uA
Wow, that guy isn't too bright. I'd hamper a thought that he's either on the spectrum or not all his dogs are barking. Enve has said these tyres are NOT compatitble with their wheels.
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it's actually Conti saying dont use... Ronald has them on 4.5AR which are hookless rims

Re: New Continental 5000S Tires - Tubeless Compatible

Posted: Sun May 26, 2019 6:06 am
by willmac
https://www.enve.com/en/products/ses-4-5-ar/

Both say it. Only Conti do it on their product though

Re: New Continental 5000S Tires - Tubeless Compatible

Posted: Sun May 26, 2019 7:51 pm
by mashiehood
Hi,
Managed to mount the 5000TL onto Light Bicycle 56mm rims by hand - admittedly after much 'channeling' into the centre of the rim. I also have the no spoke holes version so no rim tape.

Inflated with a track pump with no issues. I had wanted to run them without sealent and the front held air with no issues but rather bizzarely, the rear had very porous side walls (did the water bucket test) so had to use sealent to get the rear to hold air. Also, the rear was 25grams lighter than the front. if anyone had similar experience do share....

Re: New Continental 5000S Tires - Tubeless Compatible

Posted: Sun May 26, 2019 7:51 pm
by Weenie

Re: New Continental 5000S Tires - Tubeless Compatible

Posted: Mon May 27, 2019 2:10 am
by springs
One of my 5000TL tires was very porous too as confirmed by the under water test. Weird because the other held air much better. Conti has a quality problem if they claim the butyl lining is airtight, which I think they do.