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More stack, less reach...

Posted: Fri Oct 19, 2018 7:34 pm
by sfo423
First world problems.

I am having a hard time finding off the shelf disc frames that offer enough height in the front end that don't have correlating gorilla reach. Would be appreciative of any suggestions for (ideally) 620-630 ish stack frames that keep the reach to 39-41.

I tried the RoadMachine 01. Nice bike but the front end felt flexy. I assumed it was the flattened steerer that was not as rigid as full round. Not much else to try. I was thinking custom but I can't get into a decent build for <$7.5k and I was 'trying' to keep the budget closer to $6k.

Am I stuck w/Canyon?

Re: More stack, less reach...

Posted: Fri Oct 19, 2018 8:15 pm
by jfranci3
Just about any Endurance bike would have that geometry - a giant defy for example. Are you looking for a taller standard bike? You could just run a few spacers or shorter stem on whatever. Hell, even a Trek Emonda 60cm is close.

Re: More stack, less reach...

Posted: Fri Oct 19, 2018 8:15 pm
by Weenie

Re: More stack, less reach...

Posted: Fri Oct 19, 2018 8:31 pm
by Bigger Gear
What does Ridley look like? They always have long head tubes. Or what about a custom setup from someone like Stinner?

Re: More stack, less reach...

Posted: Fri Oct 19, 2018 9:45 pm
by sfo423
Unfortunately not with not endurance or standard bikes. The Giant stack is 210 if I recall correctly. I demoed an Emonda and I didn’t like it. Likely could have had more to do with the crappy tune.

I like the look of Ridley Fenix SLX disc but don’t see it offered (CC has them but old model with crap build) in the US.

Ideally, I’d find a standard bike with a compact or semi compact geo to keep weight down and stiffness up.

Back to Altum disc? But that build puts me well over $7k with di2 Ultegra and just decent wheels.
jfranci3 wrote:
Fri Oct 19, 2018 8:15 pm
Just about any Endurance bike would have that geometry - a giant defy for example. Are you looking for a taller standard bike? You could just run a few spacers or shorter stem on whatever. Hell, even a Trek Emonda 60cm is close.

Re: More stack, less reach...

Posted: Fri Oct 19, 2018 11:20 pm
by AJS914
Get a custom Sarto. The upcharge for custom geometry is reasonable.

https://www.pezcyclingnews.com/technspe ... ock-price/

Re: More stack, less reach...

Posted: Fri Oct 19, 2018 11:37 pm
by sfo423
It was at the top of my list but i would not see it until FEB '19 at the earliest.
AJS914 wrote:
Fri Oct 19, 2018 11:20 pm
Get a custom Sarto. The upcharge for custom geometry is reasonable.

https://www.pezcyclingnews.com/technspe ... ock-price/

Re: More stack, less reach...

Posted: Sun Oct 21, 2018 3:27 am
by alcatraz
Do you have to run a slammed stem?

See what frame has a bit longer head tube (thats within reach) and add some spacers. How about?

Re: More stack, less reach...

Posted: Sun Oct 21, 2018 3:47 am
by sfo423
Never.

I currently run about 4.5” saddle - bar drop. Need to get bars up so I am looking for more stack.
alcatraz wrote:
Sun Oct 21, 2018 3:27 am
Do you have to run a slammed stem?

See what frame has a bit longer head tube (thats within reach) and add some spacers. How about?

Re: More stack, less reach...

Posted: Sun Oct 21, 2018 4:17 am
by silvalis
sfo423 wrote:
Fri Oct 19, 2018 9:45 pm
Unfortunately not with not endurance or standard bikes. The Giant stack is 210 if I recall correctly.
A defy xl is 624/398
A synapse 61cm is 640/402

Could even get a curve spirit ti 632/403

I don’t think your stack/reach requirements really necessitate a custom geo

Re: More stack, less reach...

Posted: Sun Oct 21, 2018 5:15 am
by sfo423
Thiswill work and is a decent buy at ~$6300 w/Ultegra di2 to my door. But, not available until end of year though.

https://www.bellatisport.com/shop/produ ... _Disc.html

Re: More stack, less reach...

Posted: Sun Oct 21, 2018 3:22 pm
by RedbullFiXX
sfo423 wrote:
Fri Oct 19, 2018 7:34 pm
First world problems.

I am having a hard time finding off the shelf disc frames that offer enough height in the front end that don't have correlating gorilla reach. Would be appreciative of any suggestions for (ideally) 620-630 ish stack frames that keep the reach to 39-41.

I tried the RoadMachine 01. Nice bike but the front end felt flexy. I assumed it was the flattened steerer that was not as rigid as full round. Not much else to try. I was thinking custom but I can't get into a decent build for <$7.5k and I was 'trying' to keep the budget closer to $6k.

Am I stuck w/Canyon?
Have you considered a CX frame ? more stack by default

Re: More stack, less reach...

Posted: Sun Oct 21, 2018 3:39 pm
by SMITHERS
I would look into TREK's H2 Geometry.

Best of luck!

Re: More stack, less reach...

Posted: Sun Oct 21, 2018 6:25 pm
by sfo423
Tried the Emonda; geo works but I didn't like the bike.
SMITHERS wrote:
Sun Oct 21, 2018 3:39 pm
I would look into TREK's H2 Geometry.

The EMONDA SLR, SL or ALR might work very well for you.

Best of luck!

Re: More stack, less reach...

Posted: Sun Oct 21, 2018 6:54 pm
by kervelo
Cervelo R3 disc size 61 has 63 stack and 40.5 reach.

Re: More stack, less reach...

Posted: Sun Oct 21, 2018 6:54 pm
by Weenie

Re: More stack, less reach...

Posted: Sun Oct 21, 2018 10:28 pm
by sfo423
kervelo wrote:
Sun Oct 21, 2018 6:54 pm
Cervelo R3 disc size 61 has 63 stack and 40.5 reach.
I posted above about the R5 at ~$6300 w/Ultegra di2 to my door. But, not available until end of year though. Not sure I want to wait that long. But, its a vg deal.
https://www.bellatisport.com/shop/produ ... _Disc.html