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Centaur compatibility with higher-tier groupsets

Posted: Mon Oct 08, 2018 5:36 pm
by Amazinmets87
Is 11-speed Centaur compatible with higher-tier 11-speed Campy components? I have a few Potenza shifters and was planning to build a couple of bikes with Potenza shifters and Centaur RDs.

Furthermore do Potenza shifters require a Potenza FD?

Centaur compatibility with higher-tier groupsets

Posted: Mon Oct 08, 2018 5:36 pm
by Weenie

Re: Centaur compatibility with higher-tier groupsets

Posted: Mon Oct 08, 2018 10:25 pm
by bm0p700f
There is no compatability except with the front mech perhaps. The RD cannot be mixed and matched with heir tier kit for sure. The reason the centaur RD does not have the embrace mechanism so the RD geomtery is totally different to allow it to track the cassette properly. This means different cable pull. It was not done to annoy you. IT is engineering necessity to bring it in at price point.

Re: Centaur compatibility with higher-tier groupsets

Posted: Mon Oct 08, 2018 11:40 pm
by Amazinmets87
bm0p700f wrote:
Mon Oct 08, 2018 10:25 pm
There is no compatability except with the front mech perhaps. The RD cannot be mixed and matched with heir tier kit for sure. The reason the centaur RD does not have the embrace mechanism so the RD geomtery is totally different to allow it to track the cassette properly. This means different cable pull. It was not done to annoy you. IT is engineering necessity to bring it in at price point.
Disappointing but much appreciated information. So, can Potenza shifters be matched with Chorus RD?

Re: Centaur compatibility with higher-tier groupsets

Posted: Tue Oct 09, 2018 12:02 am
by AJS914
No.

Chorus, Record, and Super Record are all cross compatible. That said, people seem to make unauthorized combinations work but they never work 100%. Some people though are good with 98%. Some good info here:

http://www.velotech-cycling.ltd.uk/campagnolo_faq.shtml

Just sell your Potenza levers if you want all Centaur.

Re: Centaur compatibility with higher-tier groupsets

Posted: Tue Oct 09, 2018 1:36 am
by Amazinmets87
AJS914 wrote:
Tue Oct 09, 2018 12:02 am
No.

Chorus, Record, and Super Record are all cross compatible. That said, people seem to make unauthorized combinations work but they never work 100%. Some people though are good with 98%. Some good info here:

http://www.velotech-cycling.ltd.uk/campagnolo_faq.shtml

Just sell your Potenza levers if you want all Centaur.
Thank you so much! I'll probably sell Potenza and treat myself to Chorus

Re: Centaur compatibility with higher-tier groupsets

Posted: Tue Oct 09, 2018 7:36 am
by bm0p700f
Cable pull is shared between potenza and higher tier groups but the difference is in the spring tension in the rd. A stronger spring in chorus and higher education to correct the over shift from ultra shift.

Re: Centaur compatibility with higher-tier groupsets

Posted: Tue Oct 09, 2018 7:36 am
by Weenie