according to Cervelo there is an adapter...
Why particularly electronic? The S3 also completely hides mechanical gear cables within the bar/stem, and does it with a proprietary cockpit system that doesn't allow any possibility of fitting a conventional stem.
Sure, but why single out this one? The S5 isn't really any different from the prevailing design priorities of other new gen aero bikes in requiring a proprietary front end in order to get the hidden cables people want. It's also not the most limiting system of the new bikes either. You can choose not to go proprietary, and you can run mechanical. Several other bikes can't facilitate either or both of those things.On the other hand, it’s a horrible mess of proprietary bullshit that even Specialized would be proud of and is basically everything that is currently irritating about the bike industry.
It can be run with Aksiums as well, bit pointless though eh and misses the entire point.
No one knows for sure yet but I’d be willing to bet the shift quality of the S5 trumps the S3 all day long with mechanical shifters as the V stem let’s the shift cables run through less acute angle, electronic shifting and hydro lines don’t care.Karvalo wrote: Why particularly electronic? The S3 also completely hides mechanical gear cables within the bar/stem, and does it with a proprietary cockpit system that doesn't allow any possibility of fitting a conventional stem.
What makes it balls deep? You either have it or not, and it's far from the only new gen bike that has it.
If you want to run the new SystemSix the way it was designed it costs about £550. The Propel Disc cockpit costs £600. The BMC is in the same ballpark.and although it’s semi cool it’s also about £600 to replace which is just kinda silly. I’d be willing to bet I never see one of these get raced locally which is kinda sad.
It is, but it's what the market asked for. Remember the 2nd gen S5 took some stick when it was launched for not hiding cables or using proprietary hidden brakes (though I think it always sold pretty well). None of the big brands want to be left looking old school next to their competitors.
Yeah, but right now peak aero is the big thing. But it might not sty that way, same as the weight wars peaked a few years back with frames like the R5CA and Evo Black etc it's kind of faded away. Many companies are releasing heavier replacements of their ultra-light bikes and not many people are walking into bike shops with unlimited credit cards wanting something that weighs less than 6 kilos. Heck, I bet more people spending 10k are getting a bike that's over 7kg these days.For people who never want to change anything about their off-the-peg bike it's fine, but for the rest of us, what are the advantages? The only good thing I can think of about the new integrated handlebar/stem/headset systems is the very slight aero advantage of hidden cables. But the more difficult maintenance, higher weight, reduced adjustability, extra faff of setting it up and cable routing, not to mention the manufacturers' reluctance to make it easy to get the right size in the first place all make it seem like the disadvantages significantly outweigh the advantages.
I bet that won't look too bad.
7.3kg? With pedals? How?timmerrr wrote: ↑Sun Jan 13, 2019 4:59 amWell the bike is done! 7.3kg or 16.13lb with pedals and the barfly mount(its a boat anchor, I seriously think it’s steel...) first ride impressions after 30 miles were pretty fantastic. I’ve been on an older madone 5.2 with Reynolds strike slg wheels and zipp areo handlebars and the way this thing holds speed at 23+mph even in a jacket and full warmers is impressive. Incredibly stiff bb but pretty comfy vertically both front and rear. Only real complaint is that it’s 31*F and I can’t ride it more.