New Cervélo Tomorrow? (1st Oct launch)

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rollinslow
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by rollinslow

So disappointed by the new S5. I love my Cervelo but the new S5 has to be one of the ugliest bikes ever made. The upward facing split-in-half stem or whatever they call it is just so bad. I would go with an S3 or R5 if I was looking.....

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by kgt

Ugly or not it will look dissapointingly outdated in a couple of years.

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by spartan

it is ugly, expensive, heavy. reminds me last gen venge vias. specialized learned the hard lessons. i predict cervelo will refresh it after sales tank.
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by IchDien

kgt wrote:
Sun Dec 23, 2018 2:36 pm
Ugly or not it will look dissapointingly outdated in a couple of years.
Why so? I think if anything it makes every bike with a conventional stem look dated.

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by kgt

A more conventional frame looks more 'classic' at the same time. Frames that try to look innovative end up look dated very soon. There are dozens of such design failures. BTW there is nothing innovative in the case of Cervelo. Similar headbubes-stems designs exist since the 1990s.

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by tabl10s

kgt wrote:
Sun Dec 23, 2018 3:15 pm
A more conventional frame looks more 'classic' at the same time. Frames that try to look innovative end up look dated very soon. There are dozens of such design failures. BTW there is nothing innovative in the case of Cervelo. Similar headbubes-stems designs exist since the 1990s.

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The stem reminds me of a chain link.
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by IchDien

Yes, I know this.

However, am I not right in saying that that Look is widely regarded as a classic now, in fact one of the more famous bikes ever made?

Degustibus etc... but with the recent aero bikes any bike with exposed cabling (even rim) and / or a non proprietry stem now looks incredibly dated in my eyes.

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by kgt

Every frame looks dated after a few years but some frames remain classic (see Colnago C40, Look 595 or TIME vxrs).
Most frames just look dated after a few years, period.

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by IchDien

kgt wrote:
Sun Dec 23, 2018 4:42 pm
(see Colnago C40, Look 595 or TIME vxrs).
You just naming bikes you own? :D

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by kgt

No, I own none of those.

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by rollinslow

IchDien wrote:
Sun Dec 23, 2018 4:02 pm
Yes, I know this.

However, am I not right in saying that that Look is widely regarded as a classic now, in fact one of the more famous bikes ever made?

Degustibus etc... but with the recent aero bikes any bike with exposed cabling (even rim) and / or a non proprietry stem now looks incredibly dated in my eyes.

I can see that arguement that it's in the eye of the beholder. However, I think most cyclists riding bikes over 10 grand are more picky about aesthetics, ability to replace parts, fit adjustment, etc. Maybe this will be a "classic" but the forced upward split stem is so bad. Take a look at the pics where spaers are added under it for fit.....the top tube loses the smooth transition to stem and it looks even worse.

I guess only time will tell, but for now let's keep bashing it :)

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by kavlares

rollinslow wrote:
Mon Dec 24, 2018 2:18 pm
Take a look at the pics where spaers are added under it for fit.....the top tube loses the smooth transition to stem and it looks even worse.
In total agreement... about the spacers, the stem is beautiful without any... ugly as hell when it is raised...
I would only buy this bike after a precise fit in order to ensure that my riding position required no spacers at all

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by IchDien

Lol, why does everyone hate this bike?

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by Monkeyfudger

Hate is probably a bit strong, personally I like it and loath it an equal amount...

On one hand it’s cool as it’s taken a design concept (teh aeroz) and fully ran with it within the design constraints offered under the current UCI tech guidelines and drivetrain limitations. (Although saying that, if you’re using electronic gears the S3 is likely so damn close it makes the V stem kinda pointless, the S3 is probably/maybe a better all round bike as well)

On the other hand, it’s a horrible mess of proprietary bullshit that even Specialized would be proud of and is basically everything that is currently irritating about the bike industry.

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by IchDien

It can be run with a normal stem though? Pretty much every aero bike will have something proprietry...at least the seatpost for starters.

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