Geometry Question - Massive Stack Difference?
Moderator: robbosmans
Hi Weenies,
I'm comparing two alloy bikes - Ridley Helium SLA and Fuju Roubaix. I'm a bit stumped as to how the stack could be so different given the other numbers are basically the same.... any gurus out there who could explain what might be going on here?
Helium (S) Roubaix (M)
ETT 54.5 54.5
Stack 573 543
Reach 384 384
ST Length 510 500
HT Length 142 140
ST Angle 73.5 73.5
HT Angle 73 73
BB Drop 66 68
Wheelbase 977 978
Chainstay 405 405
I'm comparing two alloy bikes - Ridley Helium SLA and Fuju Roubaix. I'm a bit stumped as to how the stack could be so different given the other numbers are basically the same.... any gurus out there who could explain what might be going on here?
Helium (S) Roubaix (M)
ETT 54.5 54.5
Stack 573 543
Reach 384 384
ST Length 510 500
HT Length 142 140
ST Angle 73.5 73.5
HT Angle 73 73
BB Drop 66 68
Wheelbase 977 978
Chainstay 405 405
roubaix m stack 543... https://weightweenies.starbike.com/foru ... 0#p1430070
helium sla s stack 543... https://www.ridley-bikes.com/project/helium-sla/
did you look at the wrong column for the sla? m is 573
helium sla s stack 543... https://www.ridley-bikes.com/project/helium-sla/
did you look at the wrong column for the sla? m is 573
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Thanks....
I'm looking at this:
https://ridleybikes-ridley2.netdna-ssl. ... t_2017.pdf
Clearly lists the stack @ 573 for both the S and the M...
I'm looking at this:
https://ridleybikes-ridley2.netdna-ssl. ... t_2017.pdf
Clearly lists the stack @ 573 for both the S and the M...
seems clear ridley made a mistake in either the website or their pdf (or both!)
but given that in the pdf the only two sizes with the same stack height are s and m, whereas all other sizes differ, i'd trust the website more than the pdf
you can contact them and ask which is correct
but given that in the pdf the only two sizes with the same stack height are s and m, whereas all other sizes differ, i'd trust the website more than the pdf
you can contact them and ask which is correct
@flying: Unfortunately a red and black bike is a no-go zone for me. We have this professional Aussie rules football team here called Essendon who were a few years ago found guilty by WADA for systematic clib-wide doping and about 30 players banned for the year. The mere sight of red and black together makes my blood boil.... I'm very much against doping in sports. Which explains my ove of cycling............. lol.
I think the Fuji Roubaix edges out the Helium SLA. It supports both mechanical and electronic. The seat tube is a cm shorter, which will leave more post exposed for better comfort. The fork looks a better design and the cable routing is a bit neater at the BB. The down tube is a bit more worked too and on shape alone should be a bit stiffer...
I think the Fuji Roubaix edges out the Helium SLA. It supports both mechanical and electronic. The seat tube is a cm shorter, which will leave more post exposed for better comfort. The fork looks a better design and the cable routing is a bit neater at the BB. The down tube is a bit more worked too and on shape alone should be a bit stiffer...
@robertbb That is pretty funny about red & black
Yes as I said also on that Fuji it is a really great deal & usually can be found for less than
600USD
No complaints & might also grab another. I am just waiting till I get home in January
because I may see something special in Asia on my trip too.
Yes as I said also on that Fuji it is a really great deal & usually can be found for less than
600USD
No complaints & might also grab another. I am just waiting till I get home in January
because I may see something special in Asia on my trip too.
Just curious but...
Which size are you comparing?
I have the 54 Fuji it has a 540 seat tube
According to Ridley has a 510 seat tube in the S size which is basically their 54 yes?
Or did you mean the Ridley edges out the Fuji for you?
Yes I see that on Fuji site but.....I have the Fuji 54 frame here & the seat tube center BB to top is 540. So "effective" is actual C-T reality in this case
So it is 30mm taller than the Ridley as far as I know...meaning if Ridley info of 510 seat tube center to top is accurate
Hmm.. that's strange. What year is your Roubaix?flying wrote: ↑Tue Sep 18, 2018 2:11 am
Yes I see that on Fuji site but.....I have the Fuji 54 frame here & the seat tube center BB to top is 540. So "effective" is actual C-T reality in this case
So it is 30mm taller than the Ridley as far as I know...meaning if Ridley info of 510 seat tube center to top is accurate
2016 but I have the spec sheet from that year & I believe it is identical to spec sheet today for Seat Tube & Top Tube
Except then they just said "effective" TT or ST etc Not C-T
But reality is measured C-T as I have here & it is their effective measurement listed in my spec sheet
First sheet below is my model
Second sheet is their new listing for 2019 model which was same for 2018
But you can also use their archive to go back year by year here ( nice feature of their website)
http://www.fujibikes.com/usa/archive
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THe 2016 and 2017/2018 Roubaix frames are different:
https://archive.fujibikes.com/2016/Fuji/roubaix-13-
https://archive.fujibikes.com/2017/Fuji/roubaix-133
Flick between the two and you'll see; the geometry is now more Giant style "compact road" and the tube shapes (top tube, chainstays, down tube) are different as is the shift cable routing.
https://archive.fujibikes.com/2016/Fuji/roubaix-13-
https://archive.fujibikes.com/2017/Fuji/roubaix-133
Flick between the two and you'll see; the geometry is now more Giant style "compact road" and the tube shapes (top tube, chainstays, down tube) are different as is the shift cable routing.