Colnago C64 v V2R?

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Noctiluxx
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Calnago wrote:
Sun Oct 07, 2018 9:10 pm
The Le Col.... you mean this...
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Uh... take away the god awful crank and rest of the group and you’re left with... kind of some blue ugliness. And that new font... so far I cannot abide. Love the C64 frame however. If I were to be getting a new bike today, there’s no question in my mind the C64 would be it.
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Calnago
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by Calnago

I wonder what’s up with the “Le Col” name on it. Is it a special “light weight” edition or something? Kind of like the “Extreme - C” was.
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Calnago wrote:
Sun Oct 07, 2018 9:16 pm
I wonder what’s up with the “Le Col” name on it. Is it a special “light weight” edition or something? Kind of like the “Extreme - C” was.
No- its due to a colnago owners club or whatever day out, and a tie in with Yanto Barkers Le Col clothing line.
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Le Col is a clothing manufacturer set up by British ex-pro Yanto Barker. They sponsor Team Wiggins among others and as a long term Colnago advocate Yanto organises the annual owners' event in the UK.

Vision and FSA are part of UK Colnago importer Windwave's portfolio, hence the wheels and chainset.

Edit - apologies jekyll man, I missed your post.

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Calnago
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Thanks, now that you say that, I do remember someone posting some stuff about the onwers event in the UK. Thanks for the info.
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More photos of that Le Col variant were posted here: https://weightweenies.starbike.com/foru ... 5#p1423225
KotP wrote:
Tue Aug 21, 2018 1:26 am
As seen at the Colnago Owners Day, Gloucestershire UK, over the weekend:

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Some sort of collaboration with Le Col. Matte blue tubes and seat post, gloss dark blue lugs.

Hideous pairing with the wrong shade of bar tape and those FSA rings.... :shock:

I'm not obsessed with different C64 paint schemes but I keep waiting for one to appear that would cause me to go out and pay full retail. As it is I like PKWH best, but if I'm spending that sort of money on a frame set I'd want it to be exactly what I want.
And I'm into almost all shades of blue so kinda like that one, though the Art Decor blue still wins hands down. Only if it would come in glossy finish...

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by KotP

Urgh, I got a notification because I was quoted to be reminded of this ugly thing.

To keep the theme going, someone at windwave is not great at their job:

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A matte black and red V2-R and 12-speed Campagnolo, of course, bright orange bar tape!

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by WorkonSunday

the blue looks much deeper in the flesh. yes, i do agree...the FSA stuff is abit of turn off. but like other said, it's the UK importer's decision. My friend's V1r came with FSA handlebar as well....first thing had to go.

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by ODC

Do the paint job without LE COL and I would like it.

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Can't comment on C64 and V2r but I have now a C60 and owned a C59 for a while.
C59 was rather soft at the BB when sprinting hard on it, while C60 is much more "solid" and you really can feel the difference.
As on the C64 the the whole seat tube is in 1 piece, I would guess it will improve the feed back even more.

As mentioned from others, if it has to be a Colnago I would go for the C64 between the 2.

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derosa2000 wrote:
Wed Aug 01, 2018 1:01 am
Tested both , very similar great feelings on the road imho . C64 more bling and style of course but if you are racing then V2R is a bit more logical choice . I took V2R but will take C64 too in a few months ;O) . My last previous bikes were Canyon Ultimate CF SLX and Giant TCR Advanced SL so there were what to compare ...
DeRosa2000 — How does the V2R compare to your Ultimate SLX. I have the SLX, haven’t really taken to it. Has great snap, but I don’t like the handling / weight distribution — feel too far forward over the bars and uncomfortable descending. I’m looking for a semi-aero/all-around, replaceable race bike. Was going to get a Specialissima but front end was too low and fit of V2R looks spot on.

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Calnago wrote:
Sun Oct 07, 2018 9:10 pm
The Le Col.... you mean this...
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Uh... take away the god awful crank and rest of the group and you’re left with... kind of some blue ugliness. And that new font... so far I cannot abide. Love the C64 frame however. If I were to be getting a new bike today, there’s no question in my mind the C64 would be it.
Two shades of blue with gold, black and silver? Nah.
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by kgt

Looks like three shades of blue (four including the bar tape). I agree, nah...

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by edwardk

Well we own one of each. I bought a C64 for myself, and then a V2R for my partner, because I was filled with guilt over how much I spent on my bike. Unfortunately we are not the same size, and she won’t let anyone else touch her bike anyway, so I haven’t ridden both. She reports that the V2R is much stiffer than her 5 year old Specialized Roubaix (of course) and a bit quicker in its handling (ditto), but she has grown to like it, and is faster on it than the Roubaix. With identical components it came in about 400g lighter than the Roubaix, as I recall.

The C64 is an extravagance that is tough to justify, except, why the hell not ride just what you want, at least once in your life? It has taken me a while to tune my fit to suit me, and the feel and handling do seem sensitive to small adjustments, but it and I are now getting along famously. Things I particularly like include: the perfect handling, the large number of sizes for the frame (to get the right fit), reasonable stack and reach (so that gentlemen of a certain age can actually reach the handlebars), and the road feel. It has none of the plastic feel that some of my other carbon frames did. At the same time it doesn’t feel like steel or any metal. I would describe the feel (imprecisely) as composed and precise. The road feel is quite different from self described endurance bikes, without being harsh.

All of the above attributes of course apply as well to the V2R except perhaps the special road feel. I would guess that the V2R would beat me up a bit more on a long ride. It is clearly a better value.

Edward.

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by derosa2000

wintershade wrote:
Wed Dec 26, 2018 5:18 pm
derosa2000 wrote:
Wed Aug 01, 2018 1:01 am
Tested both , very similar great feelings on the road imho . C64 more bling and style of course but if you are racing then V2R is a bit more logical choice . I took V2R but will take C64 too in a few months ;O) . My last previous bikes were Canyon Ultimate CF SLX and Giant TCR Advanced SL so there were what to compare ...
DeRosa2000 — How does the V2R compare to your Ultimate SLX. I have the SLX, haven’t really taken to it. Has great snap, but I don’t like the handling / weight distribution — feel too far forward over the bars and uncomfortable descending. I’m looking for a semi-aero/all-around, replaceable race bike. Was going to get a Specialissima but front end was too low and fit of V2R looks spot on.
I was 3 years on Ultimate CF SLX , then 1.5 years on Giant TCR Advanced SL and at one moment I was able and still am to get Colnagoes at good prices so I tried V2R and C64 . I am 173cm , 66kg and do around 20-30 races a year and what can I say , I liked all these bikes , Giant was simply stiff , great race machine , Canyon was definitely a bit softer but I liked in overall , with Canyon I used 17 degree stem as geometry is not for racing good enough . So at the end I tried V2R and C64 , hands down great feeling on both these machines , They are stiff and comfy and handling is outstanding , Giant and Canyon were ok in this but I feel Colnago very stable and predictable in corners , I had problems in criteriums in corners but now I feel much much more confident . At the very end I stay with C64 as I had to add just few hundreds $ over V2R .

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