Dogma f10 updates

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logy
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by logy

Anyone have any news? Prince has clearance for 28mm so is a change in the offing?


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TonyM
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I suppose 2019 with a F12 (?) without visible cables and 28mm tires.

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F10 was announced in January 2017. If Pinarello sticks to this cycle then the next Fxx is 6 months away.
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logy
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Thought that may be the case. Better wait I suppose...



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Yepp if you can wait you will end up having the new one or the F10 at a discounted price if you find your size/ colour

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by moyboy

Sounds about right. Any new release will most likely have those features and new tubing shapes due to the 3:1 rule no longer there.
TonyM wrote:
Sun Jul 22, 2018 8:06 pm
I suppose 2019 with a F12 (?) without visible cables and 28mm tires.

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by logy

That being the case, what do people think about the differences between a C64 and a current f10 in terms of ride quality and ability for fast paced group rides and longer rides?

What would folk go for?


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logy wrote:
Mon Jul 23, 2018 3:01 pm
That being the case, what do people think about the differences between a C64 and a current f10 in terms of ride quality and ability for fast paced group rides and longer rides?

What would folk go for?


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I have a C60 and a F10.
In terms of ride quality, both are excellent! The C60 is slightly more comfortable for rides above 150km but the F10 is really ok in terms of comfort (although many are stating that the F8/F10 are harsch). I did several 200-250kmsolo rides with the F10 and had no problems in terms of comfort. I suppose it depends also on your fitness and how many km you do per year since how many years etc.....
I personally take the F10 when I make many and long pulls in the front of the group ride at speed above 40 kmh and also when I ride solo with lot of headwind etc...and in my case (F10 disk) when I have an advantage with the discs (mountain and/or rainy weather).
For a fast paced group ride but without many long and fast pull at the front or for a solo ride without too much headwind the C60 is maybe actually better as it is slightly more comfortable.
My F10 disk is with DA Di2 and my C60 is with Campy SR EPS. I have an aero stem/handlebar combo on my F10 and a traditional handlerbar in my C60. DT Swiss aero wheels on the F10 and Bora 50 Ultra on my C60. These components make the bikes very different.

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Don't think this update will hapen
They could have gone direct mount brakes on the F10 and didn't for a reason

logy
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by logy

Really useful. I think I will go for the C64 as it is newer in its model cycle and can take larger tyres if necessary. Also built in Italy.

Thanks for the advice.


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logy wrote:Really useful. I think I will go for the C64 as it is newer in its model cycle and can take larger tyres if necessary. Also built in Italy.

Thanks for the advice.


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The C60 (I suppose it is the same for the C64) is made out of carbon tubes made in China but assembled in Italy. The paint is also done in Italy.

The F10 is made in China AFAIK but my F10 disk came with a sticker made in Italy on the frame...maybe the paint is made in Italy or the sticker...LOL...

You can make the C64 more aero by using a aero handlebar (Deda, Pro Vibe, etc....). On the C64 it looks good also (not really on the C60).

Are you going for the rim or the disc version?

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Rim brake to use my Tune wheels. Most things made I. China ultimately I suppose.


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Yepp quality control is however different depending on the brands etc...

If rim brake I think the F10 only takes 25mm tires (the F10 disk is ok with 28mm tires).

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Just as a reference, I mounted this clincher wheel with a Bontrager 28mm tire to this test ride 2017 F10 that I was riding;
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Good to know! :thumbup:
At the end if depends on the real width of the tire. And this depends also on the rim width.

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