Discuss light weight issues concerning road bikes & parts.
muti
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I don't know which geometry chart you are looking at,but from the official Look chart for both medium and large(and xl)the headtube and seatube angles are 73/73 for 795 and 785.

ebsilon
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muti
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Thanks ebsilon,I guess I missed that!
Even though I think something is wrong with the geometry chart for size L.Headtube length150.8(smaller than M),same bb drop(HAV) and fork length(368)yet stack height 2.5 cm higher!Plus,73 headtube angle with 43 fork offset can't resuIt 43 trail.It doesn't add up!Εxcept if the headtube angle is 75.8(and by mistake written as seatube angle) with 43 fork offset and calculated with 28 tires so it can give a trail of approximately 43.But then it doesn't add up with the toptube and the front-center!Ι guess we have to wait the official presentation,thanks again for the insider info,keep them coming when you can!

wheelsONfire
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J = seat tube angle at Look geo spec.
150,8 seems like a typo, probably supposed to be 180,8
Bikes:

Ax Lightness Vial EVO Race (2018.12.21)
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Paduano Racing Fidia (kind of shelved)
Open *UP* (2016.04.14)

Ex bike; Vial EVO D

muti
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Ι know that J is seatube angle.What I said is that 73 headtube angle with 43 fork rake(F) cannot give a trail of 43(D) and front center 601,5(C).Ι think the whole idea of the steep seatube angle is to also target the triathlon market and the foward saddle position of road racing these days.I think you will be able to "compensate" that with an adjustable/reversable seatpost topper(something similar to Bianchi xr4).It was also done in the first gen of Cervelo s5,where depending on the placement of the seatclamp(it had 2 positions) you could effectively alter the seatube angle.If you look closely at the available photos,you can see the topper held by screws.We have to wait the official presentation,can't be that far off.At Eurobike they were saying end of 2018.I guess we have to wait and start saving.Some exciting staff also on the stem/headset/cable routing are rumored...

Karvalo
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muti wrote:
Thu Sep 06, 2018 9:22 am
Ι think the whole idea of the steep seatube angle is to also target the triathlon market and the foward saddle position of road racing these days.
It’s probably just another typo, don’t you think?

wheelsONfire
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Looking at 785 Hues RS, trail of medium and large is 58.4mm and F-C of medium is 584.4 and large 601.5.
So yes, it seems something is a bit off with that geo chart above.
Bikes:

Ax Lightness Vial EVO Race (2018.12.21)
viewtopic.php?f=10&t=156137
Paduano Racing Fidia (kind of shelved)
Open *UP* (2016.04.14)

Ex bike; Vial EVO D

asiantrick
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i need this bike in my life. When is the release date?

muti
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Me too!As I said above,they said end of 2018,let's hope it's not December!

hambini
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tymon_tm
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looks like it's on the taller side of things, no? 156mm HT for medium is too much for me, and going with small I'd have to get like a 140mm stem... with current 795 you can at least play with the stem, judging from the pics it won't be the case with the Blade. anyway, untill it's properly wind tunnel tested, it;s just a very, very cool looking bike.
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flying
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Error sorry
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muti
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Do you really believe that it's going to be objectively tested?By whom?By a proclaimed bike tester/aeronautical engineer/carbon fiber expert working for a mainstream cycling site?Under which protocol?By the one favoring a bike manufacturer who presents bikes wearing white coats? Οr by a blogger who is going to find it not stiff enough when he blasts his sprints on 50x11?And probably believing that it is not worthy because no pro tour team is using it( peloton,they like this word).Finally,do you think that even here,Look is going to be raved by users(usually with brand new profile),who can't believe the performance advantages and the amount of watts they gained(usually 1-2 days after it will be available)?
Let's not have any illusions,the 795 blade is going to be blasted on the reviews.That's why I am going to get myself one!I think a lot of people participating on this topic too.
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ebsilon
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flying wrote:From Glory Cycles FB page

..... that bike is the 796......

We want pictures and info of the 795 Blade RS (disc)

Ciaoooooo

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wingguy
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flying wrote:
Fri Sep 07, 2018 6:05 pm
From Glory Cycles FB page
Errrm, nice bike mate but it's a 796.

Almost the same number, totally different machine