When Are Disc Brakes Necessary?
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I didn’t understand your question. No wet conditions and no mountains means you would do just fine with full carbon rims, especially with direct mount calipers.jencvo wrote: ↑Sun Oct 28, 2018 5:30 pmHowever, I don't ride in the wet unless caught out (thanks Wahoo Kickr), nor in the mountains. There's tons of rolling hills out here, but I ride them, not hold my brakes down each one.
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Would this be a sufficient options instead of discs, I've been running alloy braking my entire life and never had problems even descending or in the wet. Another option is Campagnolo Bullet Ultra 50, same thing, alloy braking. I feel like with proper pads they can be almost as efficient, but saving myself all the rest of the pains of going with discs in my situation. Any advice?
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We all get caught in the rain and there are a few bigger hills if I drive out, but I would only go there few times a year maybe. In cases like that discs would obviously be better, but I'm not sure if that's a good enough of a reason to get them.Jugi wrote: ↑Sun Oct 28, 2018 5:56 pmI didn’t understand your question. No wet conditions and no mountains means you would do just fine with full carbon rims, especially with direct mount calipers.jencvo wrote: ↑Sun Oct 28, 2018 5:30 pmHowever, I don't ride in the wet unless caught out (thanks Wahoo Kickr), nor in the mountains. There's tons of rolling hills out here, but I ride them, not hold my brakes down each one.
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Would this be a sufficient options instead of discs, I've been running alloy braking my entire life and never had problems even descending or in the wet. Another option is Campagnolo Bullet Ultra 50, same thing, alloy braking. I feel like with proper pads they can be almost as efficient, but saving myself all the rest of the pains of going with discs in my situation. Any advice?
Well, based on the reasons you stated in your original post and just the virtues of mechanical simplicity, I wouldn’t go for disc brakes. Also, I think there is the matter of opinion in the ride feel of current generation disc brake bikes and the comparable rim brake bikes. I’m not saying either is better, but there is a difference in thru axle + forks with disc brake construction vs. QRs + traditional fork construction.
I live in a wet and hilly area and have recently replaced a set of ceramic-coated alloy rims with an entire DA9170 hydraulic disc brake bike and can honestly say there's really only one deciding factor:jencvo wrote: ↑Sun Oct 28, 2018 5:30 pmHi guys. In a few weeks I will start a build for a new road bike. I'm 83kg so I can see the benefit of consistent braking with discs. However, I don't ride in the wet unless caught out (thanks Wahoo Kickr), nor in the mountains. There's tons of rolling hills out here, but I ride them, not hold my brakes down each one. One thing that also bothers me with going disc is the compatibility with my indoor trainer, I'd have to buy a whole new wheel for it, then change adapters every time my wife uses it (rim brake bike), all on top of maintenance, setup, complexity, etc. associated with discs. Those are all the cons I see, with the pro being better braking in wet and long descents.
Here's the alternative to all of this I'm thinking about. Merlin Cycles is selling Mavic Cosmic Pro Exalith clinchers (https://www.merlincycles.com/en-us/mavi ... 97616.html), 10% off this weekend, so about $960. They are nicely aero but use exalith over alloy braking surface. What do you think of those? Would this be a sufficient options instead of discs, I've been running alloy braking my entire life and never had problems even descending or in the wet. Another option is Campagnolo Bullet Ultra 50, same thing, alloy braking. I feel like with proper pads they can be almost as efficient, but saving myself all the rest of the pains of going with discs in my situation. Any advice?
- How content you are with alloy rims
never really necessary... just preferred (like electronic shifting)
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Agree.
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Most pro riders prove that discs are far from necessary.
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Pros have different concerns with their equipment than the rest of us. Do you get new wheels every season/big race? Do you have a team car trailing you with spares? Does a few seconds longer for a wheel change matter to you?
Agree. So, pros are the first to adopt anything that actually offers them an advantage. Discs do not offer this advantage obviously.
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Added a little clarification in bold. For my needs and others, discs offer unarguable advantages which are entirely irrelevant for pro racing cyclists. So be it.
the HED Jet Black series of wheels gives u alloy braking with a deep aero carbon fairing if you do not fully want to invest in a disc brake set up. personally, i have no need for disc brakes although the modulation and feel is barely better.jencvo wrote: ↑Sun Oct 28, 2018 5:30 pmHi guys. In a few weeks I will start a build for a new road bike. I'm 83kg so I can see the benefit of consistent braking with discs. However, I don't ride in the wet unless caught out (thanks Wahoo Kickr), nor in the mountains. There's tons of rolling hills out here, but I ride them, not hold my brakes down each one. One thing that also bothers me with going disc is the compatibility with my indoor trainer, I'd have to buy a whole new wheel for it, then change adapters every time my wife uses it (rim brake bike), all on top of maintenance, setup, complexity, etc. associated with discs. Those are all the cons I see, with the pro being better braking in wet and long descents.
Here's the alternative to all of this I'm thinking about. Merlin Cycles is selling Mavic Cosmic Pro Exalith clinchers (https://www.merlincycles.com/en-us/mavi ... 97616.html), 10% off this weekend, so about $960. They are nicely aero but use exalith over alloy braking surface. What do you think of those? Would this be a sufficient options instead of discs, I've been running alloy braking my entire life and never had problems even descending or in the wet. Another option is Campagnolo Bullet Ultra 50, same thing, alloy braking. I feel like with proper pads they can be almost as efficient, but saving myself all the rest of the pains of going with discs in my situation. Any advice?