2019 bike roll out jam

Discuss light weight issues concerning road bikes & parts.
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DamonRinard
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Shrike wrote:
Wed Jul 04, 2018 9:56 am
Interesting that the Venge, Cannondale and BMC bikes aren't fatter looking, compared to say the new Orbea Orca Aero. Thought the relaxed UCI rules would have let them get away with slightly fatter bikes this time round, but designers are playing it conservatively there. Saying that, the new Madone might be a bit fatter.
Hi Shrike, the only UCI rule they relaxed was 3:1. The 8cm rule still applies, so main frame tubes are still limited.
In practice, the only parts with more freedom now are fork blades and stays.

Several times now we've measured no decrease in drag when elongating those sections beyond 3:1, but maybe we'll find the magic there one day. But then the tubes get heavier and less comfortable...

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mrlobber wrote:... except BMC probably is going to rival Specialized with the highest price of them all. Even some of my Swiss friends say BMC is overpriced :)
Frame only generally is redonk too.. might as well buy whole bike. I can get bro deals BMC .. but damn
2019 BMC TM01 Road UCI config 7.36kg

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DamonRinard wrote:
Wed Jul 04, 2018 1:06 pm
Shrike wrote:
Wed Jul 04, 2018 9:56 am
Interesting that the Venge, Cannondale and BMC bikes aren't fatter looking, compared to say the new Orbea Orca Aero. Thought the relaxed UCI rules would have let them get away with slightly fatter bikes this time round, but designers are playing it conservatively there. Saying that, the new Madone might be a bit fatter.
Hi Shrike, the only UCI rule they relaxed was 3:1. The 8cm rule still applies, so main frame tubes are still limited.
In practice, the only parts with more freedom now are fork blades and stays.

Several times now we've measured no decrease in drag when elongating those sections beyond 3:1, but maybe we'll find the magic there one day. But then the tubes get heavier and less comfortable...

Cheers,
Damon
That explains it, brill thanks Damon!

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Anyone know if Giant is going to revamp the TCR anytime soon?

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MAsshole wrote:
Thu Jul 05, 2018 2:45 am
Anyone know if Giant is going to revamp the TCR anytime soon?
Theres multiple 2019 rim brake versions of the TCR already on Giant's website. No change, as far as I can see. I like this one.
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Shrike wrote:
Wed Jul 04, 2018 8:59 am
Guessing the new Timemachine is a brick as CW's entire article conveniently doesn't mention it.

Humm, somehow very strange indeed......

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The Cycling Tips review said they didn’t get a chance to weigh it but not why, who knows if BMC is hiding it or it’s just the way it played out. I’m sure I saw somewhere it was 7.6 ish for the top line model


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Discodan wrote:
Thu Jul 05, 2018 4:17 am
The Cycling Tips review said they didn’t get a chance to weigh it but not why, who knows if BMC is hiding it or it’s just the way it played out. I’m sure I saw somewhere it was 7.6 ish for the top line model


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"TIMEMACHINE 01 ROAD ONE:
Weigh 7.5 kg (8.0 kg including Aero-module and bottles)"
From Gran Fondo

Not that "light". ...My F10 disk is 7.56kg with K-Edge Garmin-mount, Powermeter, 2 bottle cages and pedals and the Pinarello/ F10 are not known to be light....

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TonyM wrote:
Thu Jul 05, 2018 4:22 am
Not that "light". ...My F10 disk is 7.56kg with K-Edge Garmin-mount, Powermeter, 2 bottle cages and pedals and the Pinarello/ F10 are not known to be light....
Which wheels?
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When does Canyon usually publish next year's models?

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"TIMEMACHINE 01 ROAD ONE:
Weigh 7.5 kg (8.0 kg including Aero-module and bottles)"
From Gran Fondo
half a kilo for 2 water bottles, water bottle cages and a box, not really weightweenie..without going into extremes 2 bottles and 2 cages can be 200g. Funny thing is that they "advertise" their axles are very light at just fifty something grams, but doesn´t mention this:)

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mrlobber wrote:
TonyM wrote:
Thu Jul 05, 2018 4:22 am
Not that "light". ...My F10 disk is 7.56kg with K-Edge Garmin-mount, Powermeter, 2 bottle cages and pedals and the Pinarello/ F10 are not known to be light....
Which wheels?
I am using the DT Swiss ARC 1100 Dicut 48 DB.

The stock TeamMachine ONE has the 62mm. They are 100g heavier than the 48mm.
The Dura Ace powermeter is adding 70g to the standard 9100 crankset.

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hannawald wrote:
"TIMEMACHINE 01 ROAD ONE:
Weigh 7.5 kg (8.0 kg including Aero-module and bottles)"
From Gran Fondo
half a kilo for 2 water bottles, water bottle cages and a box, not really weightweenie..without going into extremes 2 bottles and 2 cages can be 200g. (...)
My thoughts also. Not WW at all.


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AndreLM wrote:
Mon Jul 02, 2018 10:43 pm
Fuji is also promising a revamped sub 900g Transonic with no proprietary parts, and good aero.
I wouldn't say that 'no proprietary parts' is entirely accurate

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cyclenutnz wrote: I wouldn't say that 'no proprietary parts' is entirely accurate
I am OK if they use only a proprietary seatpost but use standard stem, bars and brakes.

Do you have more info?

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