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Re: 2019 bike roll out jam

Posted: Wed Aug 22, 2018 8:57 pm
by cro2
asiantrick wrote:
Wed Aug 22, 2018 8:04 pm
I would wait for Focus Izalco Max, which is due to be released on September 5 (according to this site: http://www.bikefunn.com/roadbike/49299.html). Basically I am in the same sitatution and the Fuji was a strong candidate before the prices were announced.
Is the Izalco Max frame will be the same or it will be different?
AFAIK it will be an aero frame.

Re: 2019 bike roll out jam

Posted: Wed Aug 22, 2018 9:43 pm
by sib
Noctiluxx wrote:
Wed Aug 22, 2018 4:32 pm
You can get this through my dealer for 15% off an no tax.
https://www.giant-bicycles.com/us/tcr-a ... -disc-2019
That's pretty impressive.
Do you know if your dealer can deliver to Japan?

Re: 2019 bike roll out jam

Posted: Wed Aug 22, 2018 9:43 pm
by Weenie

Re: 2019 bike roll out jam

Posted: Wed Aug 22, 2018 10:05 pm
by Karvalo
cro2 wrote:
Wed Aug 22, 2018 8:57 pm
AFAIK it will be an aero frame.
An allrounder with aero tweaks. More of an R5 or Tarmac than S5 or Venge. Closest comparison the BMC Teammachine Disc, I'd say.

Re: 2019 bike roll out jam

Posted: Wed Aug 22, 2018 11:55 pm
by asiantrick
Karvalo wrote:
Wed Aug 22, 2018 10:05 pm
cro2 wrote:
Wed Aug 22, 2018 8:57 pm
AFAIK it will be an aero frame.
An allrounder with aero tweaks. More of an R5 or Tarmac than S5 or Venge. Closest comparison the BMC Teammachine Disc, I'd say.
I've been looking online and no leak picture I've found of this bike yet. Really curious!

Re: 2019 bike roll out jam

Posted: Thu Aug 23, 2018 2:45 am
by mpulsiv
BagelMaster wrote:
Wed Aug 22, 2018 4:37 pm
Noctiluxx wrote:
Wed Aug 22, 2018 4:32 pm
You can get this through my dealer for 15% off an no tax.
https://www.giant-bicycles.com/us/tcr-a ... -disc-2019
I know this is a better bike, but I'm going to be vain and picky and say I don't like the integrated seat post. If that 15% was off an Advanced Pro, I would think that is really competitive!
From my perspective, Advanced SL is not really a better bike. If my memory serves me right, Advanced SL is ~70 grams ligher than Advanced PRO. Giant's source and Tour magazine source indicates that Advanced SL is not stiffer. I don't think Advanced SL is worth extra $1000 :beerchug:

Re: 2019 bike roll out jam

Posted: Thu Aug 23, 2018 7:25 am
by TobinHatesYou
Does the weight difference include the weight of the seatmast topper vs the seatpost? I imagine the 70g difference is closer to a 120g difference.

Re: 2019 bike roll out jam

Posted: Thu Aug 23, 2018 7:39 am
by mpulsiv
TobinHatesYou wrote:
Thu Aug 23, 2018 7:25 am
Does the weight difference include the weight of the seatmast topper vs the seatpost? I imagine the 70g difference is closer to a 120g difference.
I’m not quite sure. Someone chimed in recently and I took his word for it. Delta could be way above ~70 grams.

Re: 2019 bike roll out jam

Posted: Thu Aug 23, 2018 8:56 am
by guyc
ISP's are a ballache for most people. You need to nail the fit and then cut, it makes it harder to sell the bike on, and travelling with a bike becomes trickier when you need to pack it.

Re: 2019 bike roll out jam

Posted: Thu Aug 23, 2018 8:57 am
by TobinHatesYou
guyc wrote:
Thu Aug 23, 2018 8:56 am
ISP's are a ballache for most people. You need to nail the fit and then cut, it makes it harder to sell the bike on, and travelling with a bike becomes trickier when you need to pack it.
Unless you have a no-cut ISP system like Trek!

Re: 2019 bike roll out jam

Posted: Thu Aug 23, 2018 8:59 am
by guyc
TobinHatesYou wrote:
Thu Aug 23, 2018 8:57 am
guyc wrote:
Thu Aug 23, 2018 8:56 am
ISP's are a ballache for most people. You need to nail the fit and then cut, it makes it harder to sell the bike on, and travelling with a bike becomes trickier when you need to pack it.
Unless you have a no-cut ISP system like Trek!
A fair point!

Re: 2019 bike roll out jam

Posted: Thu Aug 23, 2018 9:38 am
by peterlee
:beerchug: Thank you for your Information !! ..

Re: 2019 bike roll out jam

Posted: Thu Aug 23, 2018 2:35 pm
by BagelMaster
Looking the current prices for the Izalco disc, I'm suspicious that a Di2+Disc version will come down in price. The specs seem to tick all the boxes I'm interested in though!

Re: 2019 bike roll out jam

Posted: Thu Aug 23, 2018 4:55 pm
by RobinRS
I found some pictures of the new Focus Izalco max

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Re: 2019 bike roll out jam

Posted: Thu Aug 23, 2018 5:03 pm
by FLtrooper
Looks great! Any idea on pricing and availability?

:)

Re: 2019 bike roll out jam

Posted: Thu Aug 23, 2018 5:03 pm
by Weenie

Re: 2019 bike roll out jam

Posted: Thu Aug 23, 2018 5:20 pm
by jorryt
Nooo now it isn't a traditional frameset anymore :(
But I am way too young to be old fashioned so looks decent.