SRAM 2019?

[jever98]

True, hydro discs won't go away. I mentioned the travel issue because in the past, I had a di2 cable snap on my TT bike (my fault, really) that was a pain to replace, as it required a new bar end shifter.

[ichobi]

Good point about frequent traveling. I kind of take it for granted already but yeah thats great you dont have to worry too much about cables and such.

[taodemon]

You guys will be surprised then.

big surprise...... by the weight

Weight and cost, it's like they didn't want to take any business away from Shimano.

More gears, less wires. Wireless is worth a bit I think.

I like the simplicity of wireless, and have been wanting to put etap on my bike for a about a year now. My dad runs 11s etap on his bike but I was waiting to see what the new etap would be like. Regular etap and di2 prices are somewhat comparable but this new stuff with its pm/chain ring limitations and price hike has been a pretty big let down. There seems to be more reasons to avoid it than to get it.

Price, PM limitations/replacement, lack of backwards and possibly future compatibility, heavier than di2 and old etap, is the shifting as fast as di2 yet? vs more gears/range and wireless?

I guess I could go with old etap but most likely will just keep using my DA 9000 until some other wireless option comes along unless I find a good sale on the old etap.

[Fisherfreerider]

The travel issue is a good point actually in favor or wireless, unless of course, you run hydro discs then that complication more than negates any benefit from not having to worry about derailleur cables.

The travel is so easy. I always take the derailleur and chain off the bike and put it in a small box inside my bike box. Zero chance of an issue.

[TobinHatesYou]

Hydro discs are only an issue if you are attempting to use something small like an Orucase Ninja that requires fork removal.

[deepakvrao]

The travel issue is a good point actually in favor or wireless, unless of course, you run hydro discs then that complication more than negates any benefit from not having to worry about derailleur cables.

Why are hydro discs a negative for travelling?

[mattr]

Why are hydro discs a negative for travelling?

Air moves around in the system unless it's absolutely perfectly bled, pads can advance if the levers get pressed, the hoses are *slightly* less tolerant to bending/abuse.

Mostly can be mitigated by good set up and careful packing.

[MichaelB]

Have travelled heaps (within Oz and to Europe) with my road hydro disc bike over the years and never had an issue, either with air, accidental lever actuation, hose crimping or anything, and that’s without even being careful.

[jlok]

Same, been through a few trips involving R785, eTap HRD and R8070, all hydraulics working fine.

[mattr]

That's nice, and i'm happy for you, but I've had a number come to me that need these problems fixing.

Even had one mtb that'd managed to advance one piston out of the caliper......... (but that had a sticky piston issue even after i'd managed to get the other one back in and the system bled.) Think it'd been moving around during the flight and pressed the lever a couple of dozen times.......

[Calnago]

I guess I might qualify things a bit here. The size of the bike can make a huge difference when traveling. So if you’re a munchkin with a funsize frame, travel is easier, especially if you don’t have to remove the fork. But if you ride a mansize bike, fork removal is often a given, as is positioning the frame in such a way as to protect the top of the seat tube, although with sloping frames that’s not so much an issue. But when you have to remove the fork, or even just the handlebars, then place them farther away than you might with a small frame, without disconnecting the brake lines things can get very awkward, before even thinking about the issues that @Mattr is discussing. I used to travel a lot more with my bike, non disc, but when I’ve packed it in recent times I’ve taken some time to think about how this might look if there were hydraulic lines involved that I didn’t want to disconnect. It looked potentially “problematic” shall we say.
So yes, size matters.

[mattr]

One option for the packing issue is to remove the caliper(s), obviously only works with externally routed hoses.
But refit and recentering is a 2 minute, 1 tool, job. Especially if you already have to refit handlebars etc.

[Jugi]

So yes, size matters.

Purchase a suitable bike case for the bike? Smaller bike fits a smaller case, larger bike fits a larger case. No too hard.

But, when I selected a new road bike last year, ease of travel was one of the big arguments in the rim brake bike's corner. I have a big bike case which may or may not fit into the average taxi and therefore will easily swallow my road bike (no matter which brake system), but traveling with a bike is stressful enough already. Although hydraulic brakes should be just fine for travel, I'm definetly not packing a bleeding kit with me. And I do not want to take the chance of needing specialist assistance to get my bike rideable at the location. That should be a 20 minute job executed with some allen keys and a pump.

[MayhemSWE]

Why would anyone remove disc brake wheels for travel without putting a spacer block between the caliper pads? That's just asking for trouble…

[Nefarious86]

The Force power meter makes the Red option look even more ridiculous

https://cyclingtips.com/2019/04/sram-fo ... ts-prices/

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