budget light frame

Discuss light weight issues concerning road bikes & parts.
reedplayer
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by reedplayer

shoon wrote:
Fri Jun 01, 2018 10:23 am

Only Trek emonda slr is at the weight u stated and it's Super ex. Normal emonda is about 1kg for the frame.
Suggest go for fuji SL 1.1 frame for lightness


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i would not call 2999.- euro "super expensive" for one of the lightest framesets available. much cheaper than other frames of this weight class (ax vial evo, cervelo rca, sarto seta, scott addict premium, even the badly constructed wilier zero 6...)
regrettably it looks ugly.
https://www.trekbikes.com/de/de_DE/bike ... =black_red

RussellS
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by RussellS

shoon wrote:
Fri Jun 01, 2018 10:23 am
RussellS wrote:I think the Fuji SL frame is very light. 700 or so grams. Or maybe 800. Look it up. There are threads on this forum. Price around $1999 or so. And the Trek Emonda frame is $3000 I think. 700 or so grams.
Only Trek emonda slr is at the weight u stated and it's Super ex. Normal emonda is about 1kg for the frame.
Suggest go for fuji SL 1.1 frame for lightness
You consider $3000 super expensive? $3000 is not cheap, no. But its not super expensive. Not even sure it qualifies as expensive. It is 2018, in case you did not know. Its not 1988.

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2lo8
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by 2lo8

I bought a motorcycle for $3000. I'm pretty sure $3000 for a frame only qualifies as expensive, 2018 or not.

Doesn't need to be ultra-boutique to qualify as expensive.
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pahorpe
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by pahorpe

My total budget for the bike is 1500€. 3000€ is twice that. I am looking for an used frame that would cost max. 600€.

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by RussellS

2lo8 wrote:
Fri Jun 01, 2018 9:44 pm
I bought a motorcycle for $3000. I'm pretty sure $3000 for a frame only qualifies as expensive, 2018 or not.

Doesn't need to be ultra-boutique to qualify as expensive.
You can buy cars for $300. So you spent TEN times more on a motorcycle? Wow!!!! You're one of those Kardashian people for blowing money.

$3000 for a frame only is not expensive. Its not cheap. But its not expensive.

"IRVINE, Calif., Feb. 1, 2018 The analysts at Kelley Blue Book today reported the estimated average transaction price (ATP) for light vehicles in the United States was $36,270 in January 2018. New-car prices have increased by $1,360 (up 3.9 percent) from January 2017, while dropping $486 (down 1.3 percent) from last month."
https://mediaroom.kbb.com/2018-02-01-Av ... -Blue-Book

Median statewide home prices
California$549,000
Texas$295,000
Arizona$339,000
Nevada$344,900
Oregon$420,000
Washington$420,000
(As of 4/1/2018, per Realtor.com.)
https://www.marketwatch.com/story/with- ... 2018-05-03

Still think $3000 is expensive for a frame?

2lo8
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by 2lo8

RussellS wrote:
Fri Jun 01, 2018 11:39 pm
2lo8 wrote:
Fri Jun 01, 2018 9:44 pm
I bought a motorcycle for $3000. I'm pretty sure $3000 for a frame only qualifies as expensive, 2018 or not.

Doesn't need to be ultra-boutique to qualify as expensive.
You can buy cars for $300. So you spent TEN times more on a motorcycle? Wow!!!! You're one of those Kardashian people for blowing money.

$3000 for a frame only is not expensive. Its not cheap. But its not expensive.

"IRVINE, Calif., Feb. 1, 2018 The analysts at Kelley Blue Book today reported the estimated average transaction price (ATP) for light vehicles in the United States was $36,270 in January 2018. New-car prices have increased by $1,360 (up 3.9 percent) from January 2017, while dropping $486 (down 1.3 percent) from last month."
https://mediaroom.kbb.com/2018-02-01-Av ... -Blue-Book

Median statewide home prices
California$549,000
Texas$295,000
Arizona$339,000
Nevada$344,900
Oregon$420,000
Washington$420,000
(As of 4/1/2018, per Realtor.com.)
https://www.marketwatch.com/story/with- ... 2018-05-03

Still think $3000 is expensive for a frame?
I can't live in a bicycle frame, so yes, $3000 for a bicycle frame is expensive. That's so incredibly disingenuous I'm honestly at a loss for words. Go ask anyone who makes a median income in a first world country if they think $3000 for a bicycle frame, not even a complete bicycle, is expensive. Go ask someone who runs a Trek or Fuji dealer what the median price of a bicycle they sell is. $300 car? You mean something over 20 years old, 200k miles and in dire need of repairs?

I'm sorry, but you're grossly out of touch with reality.
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by TonyM

RussellS wrote:
2lo8 wrote:
Fri Jun 01, 2018 9:44 pm
I bought a motorcycle for $3000. I'm pretty sure $3000 for a frame only qualifies as expensive, 2018 or not.
Doesn't need to be ultra-boutique to qualify as expensive.
You can buy cars for $300. So you spent TEN times more on a motorcycle? Wow!!!! You're one of those Kardashian people for blowing money.

$3000 for a frame only is not expensive. Its not cheap. But its not expensive.

"IRVINE, Calif., Feb. 1, 2018 The analysts at Kelley Blue Book today reported the estimated average transaction price (ATP) for light vehicles in the United States was $36,270 in January 2018. New-car prices have increased by $1,360 (up 3.9 percent) from January 2017, while dropping $486 (down 1.3 percent) from last month."
https://mediaroom.kbb.com/2018-02-01-Av ... -Blue-Book

Median statewide home prices
California$549,000
Texas$295,000
Arizona$339,000
Nevada$344,900
Oregon$420,000
Washington$420,000
(As of 4/1/2018, per Realtor.com.)
https://www.marketwatch.com/story/with- ... 2018-05-03

Still think $3000 is expensive for a frame?

The OP is living in Slovenia and is AFAIK not a relative of Melania Trump 🤣🤣

Do you know the average wages in Slovenia?

It is like USA compared to Switzerland Image

addictR1
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by addictR1

Noctiluxx wrote:I can get the TCR SL at my dealer for $2100 out the door. That frame is as good as it gets for a climbing or all around bike.
Which shop is that? Is it in the US?


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vejnemojnen
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by vejnemojnen

http://www.konuszbikes.hu/akciok.html?P ... duo031a234

take a look around. They are located at Pécs, which is not far from slovenian border. The prices are listed in HUF, but you can convert it to EUR pretty damn well

though these are mostly complete builds, you can always strip-sell the parts not needed. You can even view sold-no longer available items, recent offerings, under the option "korábbi termékeink", to see, what they were selling in the last few weeks

https://apro.bikemag.hu/apro/cervelo-s3 ... szett-5738

195k HUF, that equals 610 euros for the frameset..

Váz+villa+kormánycsapágy+gyűrűk+nyeregcső+bilincs+BSA menetes középrész

means: frame-fork-headset-spacer rings-seatpost with seatpost clamp and a BSA threaded bottom bracket

for this cc. 610 euro, it seems quite reasonable

http://magicbike.hu/?p=8003

the frameset for only 150k HUF, the package with everything is more ofc.

pahorpe
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by pahorpe

vejnemojnen wrote:
Sat Jun 02, 2018 4:57 am
http://www.konuszbikes.hu/akciok.html?P ... duo031a234

take a look around. They are located at Pécs, which is not far from slovenian border. The prices are listed in HUF, but you can convert it to EUR pretty damn well

though these are mostly complete builds, you can always strip-sell the parts not needed. You can even view sold-no longer available items, recent offerings, under the option "korábbi termékeink", to see, what they were selling in the last few weeks

https://apro.bikemag.hu/apro/cervelo-s3 ... szett-5738

195k HUF, that equals 610 euros for the frameset..

Váz+villa+kormánycsapágy+gyűrűk+nyeregcső+bilincs+BSA menetes középrész

means: frame-fork-headset-spacer rings-seatpost with seatpost clamp and a BSA threaded bottom bracket

for this cc. 610 euro, it seems quite reasonable

http://magicbike.hu/?p=8003

the frameset for only 150k HUF, the package with everything is more ofc.
Thank you vejnemojnen, you are the best. The cervelo is a nice frame. If you any other interesting frame, please PM me.

jeanjacques
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by jeanjacques

You can also look at Planet X: https://www.planetx.co.uk/c/q/frames/road-bike-frames
Not the lightest but the price is good and the majority is BSA threaded.

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Beaver
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by Beaver

2lo8 wrote:
Fri Jun 01, 2018 11:53 pm
I'm sorry, but you're grossly out of touch with reality.
It's in Euro, but maybe some people should have a look: https://www.laenderdaten.info/durchschn ... kommen.php ;)

Globally it's really crazy what we spend on bikes.

And the numbers are the calculated average not the median (50% earn more, 50% less) - so most people earn less.

And in the USA ("richest country in the world") 50% have no financial savings or is in dept. And this group will grow.

pahorpe
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by pahorpe

Beaver wrote:
Sat Jun 02, 2018 1:01 pm
2lo8 wrote:
Fri Jun 01, 2018 11:53 pm
I'm sorry, but you're grossly out of touch with reality.
It's in Euro, but maybe some people should have a look: https://www.laenderdaten.info/durchschn ... kommen.php ;) :wink:

Globally it's really crazy what we spend on bikes.

And the numbers are the calculated average not the median (50% earn more, 50% less) - so most people earn less.

And in the USA ("richest country in the world") 50% have no financial savings or is in dept. And this group will grow.
Sure. But let's talk about some good frames for my budget project? Thanks!

pahorpe
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by pahorpe

jeanjacques wrote:
Sat Jun 02, 2018 11:29 am
You can also look at Planet X: https://www.planetx.co.uk/c/q/frames/road-bike-frames
Not the lightest but the price is good and the majority is BSA threaded.
The Battaglin Hyper looks good but they have the frame only in XS size and the frame is Di2 only.

vejnemojnen
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by vejnemojnen

I believe it was sent, but:

https://bikemarkt.mtb-news.de/article/1 ... c?ref=shop

new, from shop, possibly with warranty, and within Slovenian borders.. What's not to like?

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