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there are cleaning products that will take care of matte white well.. I rode a bike that was have black and white in matte and chemical guys cleaner did wonders.
I tried Morgan Blue matte carbon cleaner, and it did nothing for me. I then tried with WD40 and Citrus Cleaner in desperation as well. May have been too long between getting the stains and cleaning them. I ended up coating my bike in silicone spray after that to avoid any further mess.
You are ASSuming the "black" comes from the natural color of the carbon fiber. But more likely if it is painted black, then a black bike weighs the exact same as any other color of bike. I doubt black paint is any lighter weight than white paint or red paint.anykarthik wrote: ↑Thu Sep 13, 2018 6:39 pmOf course, the extra weight that comes with non-black paints was also a factor. I read somewhere that the purple-flake bike is ~150-200g heavier.
Which size? My Purple in 52 is coming any day nowanykarthik wrote: ↑Thu Sep 13, 2018 6:39 pmI bought the Matt black Venge Pro. I REALLY wanted to get a non-black bike and would have pulled the trigger on the purple bike, but metal flake is too much bling for my weak legs. If it was a matt or gloss purple without the flake, I would have gone that route. Of course, the extra weight that comes with non-black paints was also a factor. I read somewhere that the purple-flake bike is ~150-200g heavier.
That said, the hologram logos, saddle and bar tape actually make the matt black bike look quite interesting. So no regrets really.
Got my Aerofly II in 38cm today, 213g I`m ASSuming you have to use a thicker layer of white paint then black...RussellS wrote: ↑Thu Sep 13, 2018 7:34 pmYou are ASSuming the "black" comes from the natural color of the carbon fiber. But more likely if it is painted black, then a black bike weighs the exact same as any other color of bike. I doubt black paint is any lighter weight than white paint or red paint.anykarthik wrote: ↑Thu Sep 13, 2018 6:39 pmOf course, the extra weight that comes with non-black paints was also a factor. I read somewhere that the purple-flake bike is ~150-200g heavier.
Also, in this specific case, metal flake paint is heavier than regular paint.sivan wrote: ↑Thu Sep 13, 2018 8:53 pmI`m ASSuming you have to use a thicker layer of white paint then black...RussellS wrote: ↑Thu Sep 13, 2018 7:34 pmYou are ASSuming the "black" comes from the natural color of the carbon fiber. But more likely if it is painted black, then a black bike weighs the exact same as any other color of bike. I doubt black paint is any lighter weight than white paint or red paint.anykarthik wrote: ↑Thu Sep 13, 2018 6:39 pmOf course, the extra weight that comes with non-black paints was also a factor. I read somewhere that the purple-flake bike is ~150-200g heavier.
Got the 54. Fits me well. Though I may have to go back to my Selle SMP saddle which would be shame since the hologram saddle cover on the stock Power saddle is pretty damn coolcerro wrote: ↑Thu Sep 13, 2018 8:09 pmWhich size? My Purple in 52 is coming any day nowanykarthik wrote: ↑Thu Sep 13, 2018 6:39 pmI bought the Matt black Venge Pro. I REALLY wanted to get a non-black bike and would have pulled the trigger on the purple bike, but metal flake is too much bling for my weak legs. If it was a matt or gloss purple without the flake, I would have gone that route. Of course, the extra weight that comes with non-black paints was also a factor. I read somewhere that the purple-flake bike is ~150-200g heavier.
That said, the hologram logos, saddle and bar tape actually make the matt black bike look quite interesting. So no regrets really.
It is painted black - but with a black carbon backing you only need a small thickness of black paint to get the uniform finish you want. With lighter colours you need enough paint layered up to be completely opaque. If you ever chip the paint on a white or fluoro bike you'll see how much is needed!RussellS wrote: ↑Thu Sep 13, 2018 7:34 pmYou are ASSuming the "black" comes from the natural color of the carbon fiber. But more likely if it is painted black,anykarthik wrote: ↑Thu Sep 13, 2018 6:39 pmOf course, the extra weight that comes with non-black paints was also a factor. I read somewhere that the purple-flake bike is ~150-200g heavier.
You really believe million/billion dollar Specialized "custom" builds every bike it makes? Factories, whether in China or USA, DO NOT vary the routine for everything they produce. That is inefficient and leads to bankruptcy. You honestly believe black bikes are painted differently than white bikes and red bikes? Other than the color, everything is identical. All Specialized bikes built at the same Chinese factory get the same paint job. Costs skyrocket when you change things for every product. Every bike gets two coats of primer, every bike gets two coats of finish color, every bike gets two coats of gloss topcoat. Efficiency keeps costs low and profit high. Variation in every product you make increases costs and lowers profit.wingguy wrote: ↑Fri Sep 14, 2018 12:23 amIt is painted black - but with a black carbon backing you only need a small thickness of black paint to get the uniform finish you want. With lighter colours you need enough paint layered up to be completely opaque. If you ever chip the paint on a white or fluoro bike you'll see how much is needed!RussellS wrote: ↑Thu Sep 13, 2018 7:34 pmYou are ASSuming the "black" comes from the natural color of the carbon fiber. But more likely if it is painted black,anykarthik wrote: ↑Thu Sep 13, 2018 6:39 pmOf course, the extra weight that comes with non-black paints was also a factor. I read somewhere that the purple-flake bike is ~150-200g heavier.
Using unneccessary amounts of paint will lead to bankruptcy, as well.RussellS wrote: You really believe million/billion dollar Specialized "custom" builds every bike it makes? Factories, whether in China or USA, DO NOT vary the routine for everything they produce. That is inefficient and leads to bankruptcy. You honestly believe black bikes are painted differently than white bikes and red bikes?