S-Works Venge 2019

[Nefarious86]

Never compare what pros ride to what the rest of us ride lol. They do some weird and wonderful things.

[moonoi]

I find those size guides a bit misleading, since the issue I have is stupidly long legs a short (fat) body and long arms, I find knowing the max/min saddle height a more important a guide, along with reach. According to Specialized, I should be on a 56 by height, but because of my inseam I need a 58.

[Nefarious86]

The "size chart" is based on the majority of people who fall in the middle of the curve flr each size.

[AJS914]

It's interesting that Specialized specs short stems on these bikes. 100mm for a 56. I'm 183cm and I could fit the 56 with a 110mm stem and some spacers or the 58 with a 100mm stem.

[andreas]

Well if you consider their size guide, I guess the stem sizing makes sense, but comparing the geometry to my current 56cm Supersix I have no idea how that guide can be correct. I hope it's possible to pre-order with a different stem length, because changing these stems is a hassle with the amount of integration and hydraulic cabling.

Anyone know what the maximum amount of exposable seatpost length is? Going off the geometry table, I would need to expose 232mm of the 390mm length seatpost, leaving 158mm in the frame. (BTW the 54 only comes with a 300mm seatpost)

[Kinzal]

I want buy a Sworks Venge and I tested one at size 54 and it felt really good. I´m 183cm and +/- 85cm betwen legs. I did a bike bit in it and the conclusion was that I am between 54 and 56. If it is 54 I have to put all the washers under the advance because the 54 has less 18mm of stack compared to 56. If I buy the 56 I will have to put a 90mm feed to compensate slightly the increase of the ETT relative to a 54. :/

[robeambro]

I want buy a Sworks Venge and I tested one at size 54 and it felt really good. I´m 183cm and +/- 85cm betwen legs. I did a bike bit in it and the conclusion was that I am between 54 and 56. If it is 54 I have to put all the washers under the advance because the 54 has less 18mm of stack compared to 56. If I buy the 56 I will have to put a 90mm feed to compensate slightly the increase of the ETT relative to a 54. :/

Hmm I'm 178 with +/- 86 inseam and I would consider the 54 or 56.. I guess you would need an extra long stem and/or to opt for the zero offset seatpost?

[Kinzal]

I want buy a Sworks Venge and I tested one at size 54 and it felt really good. I´m 183cm and +/- 85cm betwen legs. I did a bike bit in it and the conclusion was that I am between 54 and 56. If it is 54 I have to put all the washers under the advance because the 54 has less 18mm of stack compared to 56. If I buy the 56 I will have to put a 90mm feed to compensate slightly the increase of the ETT relative to a 54. :/

Hmm I'm 178 with +/- 86 inseam and I would consider the 54 or 56.. I guess you would need an extra long stem and/or to opt for the zero offset seatpost?

Yes, they are the solutions. Another possible solution in the condition of buying a 56 is to put a steam with 90mm ...

[L3X]

If you're between something like 182cm and 186cm I'd test the 56cm to start with. Obviously everyone has their own preferences so you can change stem/sizes depending on what works for you. As an example: I'm 186cm, a 56 would work, but I can also go for 58cm and slam it.

For reference, these are the stack/reach numbers:
54: stack: 534 reach: 387
56: stack: 555 reach: 398
58: stack: 581 reach: 405

[robeambro]

If you're between something like 182cm and 186cm I'd test the 56cm to start with. Obviously everyone has their own preferences so you can change stem/sizes depending on what works for you. As an example: I'm 186cm, a 56 would work, but I can also go for 58cm and slam it.

For reference, these are the stack/reach numbers:
54: stack: 534 reach: 387
56: stack: 555 reach: 398
58: stack: 581 reach: 405

Well, being the Venge quite aggressive compared to other road bikes, one can't overstate the importance of considering the saddle to bar drop. Not sure what your inseam is, but at 186cm, one would arguably need a saddle height to bb of more than 78cm, possibly even nearing/surpassing 80cm, depending on their inseam.. With 555mm stack, you get a quite hefty drop.

[Jugi]

Hmm I'm 178 with +/- 86 inseam and I would consider the 54 or 56.. I guess you would need an extra long stem and/or to opt for the zero offset seatpost?

For reference, my experience on a Specialized Tarmac:

I'm 180cm/84cm, rode a SL3 size 56 with a straight seatpost, a -17 degree 100mm slammed stem and a compact bar for several years. Just now I got a SL6. I did think about a switch to a 54 but at the end of the day, I can achieve my preferred fit on the 56 even with the 20mm offset seatpost, my saddle to bar drop is quite nice at 100-105mm and I definetly didn't want a shorter wheelbase than the 56.

All that said, I think for me the ideal frame reach would be 3-4mm less than what a size 56 Tarmac offers. So a 56 is closer to my ideal fit than a 54.

[CrankAddictsRich]

Never compare what pros ride to what the rest of us ride lol. They do some weird and wonderful things.

Exactly.

I'm 5'8" and when I was on a 1st gen. Venge, I rode a 54. the stem was slammed with only the aero spacer and I had a -10, 100mm stem. A friend o mine got a former Team Astana S-Works Venge thta was ridden by Andrea Guardini. Guardini is the same height as me, 5'8", but he was on a size 49 and there was nothing left on the steerer tube, not even room for a spacer above te stem. I'm sure he was using a 120+ stem... probably even longer. I've ridden my friends bike and I'd need somethng much lobger than my 100 to get the fit even remotely right for reah, but I don't think I could sustain that down position for very long.

Pro riders aren't paid to be comfortable, they're paid to be FAST, always remember that. They will always choose fast over comfort.

[Bordcla]

Apparently the little bike is popular amongst some who patronize this site. Peter Sagan, the professional cyclist is 184 cm. 6' 0.5" tall. He rides a 56cm Venge with 56.2cm toptube. AND 145 MM STEM. And saddle slid back aways on its rails on a setback seatpost. Not sure how far forward his bars reach. I'm pretty sure Sagan with his 145mm stem and saddle back, has a flat back when in the drops. Do those on this forum have a hunched up, rounded over back position?

I'd say: be careful about drawing comparisons with a pro. Especially one with Sagan's proportions and physical abilities and flexibility.

When he rode for Cannondale, he had a custom mold that was the length of a 58 and the stack of a 54, because he has a longer torso and shorter legs than average for his overall size.

[anykarthik]

I bought a 54 Venge Pro. I'm 178cm in height and have a freakishly high 89cm inseam. Generally speaking, race bike fits do not suit me because my saddle needs to be quite high (which also pushes it back) making both the reach and saddle to bar drop too high on most frames.

My last bike was a Ridley Helium which is actually a slightly more upright geo (like the Cervelo R3). I had a Medium (i.e. 56) with no spacers, but a 80mm stem. And my drop was 14cm.

With the Venge, I'm riding with all the spacers and the bike is comfortable for me with the stock 100mm stem. I actually like how most modern aero bikes with integrated cockpits look with a spacer stack, so that's not a problem for me. I had to change out the stock Power saddle though because I could not get enough setback with it. The Toupe suits me better.

I just have a weird body. Truth be told, I should be on an endurance geo frame. But none exist that are still aero and fast handling (which I really like). I'm just glad that the Venge works for me.

[ParisCarbon]

Im 182cm and a super long 92.5 inseam... I have a 58 Tarmac SL5 and a 58 SL6.. I originally had a 350mm FSA post in the SL5, but went for a 400 since the post is right on the max insert line, and I just wasn't 100% comfortable with that... I ordered a Venge frameset and confirmed with Spec USA that the 58 was correct.. I also went with a 12cm stem like the rest of my bikes.... Hopefully frame will arrive in Canada soon... Im putting Campag EPS 12 on it, so I guess I get to stare at the frame until March from the looks of it... which is OK, cause I'll be living on my cross country skis shortly I hope....