In Sweden the Venge Vias Expert 2018 is continuing to 2019 so looks like just S-Works and Pro for the new model.
S-Works Venge 2019
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Given the similar "frameset" componentry, that would all be on account of:
- CL wheels instead of CLX;
- Ultegra Di2 instead of DA; and
- bits and bobs like a different grade (non-S-Works) saddle,
is this correct?
If so, that is not bad at all!
A large part of the 350 g is going to be Ultegra vs. DA. The wheels might be a wash (weight-wise) because the s-works build is sporting the deeper dish (64 vs. 50), but better spokes and hubs. Haven’t looked at th me weight difference in saddle.
The saddle alone is 74g. S-works = 159g, expert = 233g according to Specialized's site.LBoogie28 wrote: ↑Tue Aug 21, 2018 10:51 pmA large part of the 350 g is going to be Ultegra vs. DA. The wheels might be a wash (weight-wise) because the s-works build is sporting the deeper dish (64 vs. 50), but better spokes and hubs. Haven’t looked at th me weight difference in saddle.
The S-Works got CLX64, Pro got CL50. 14mm difference in height too so not so much if any weightdifference there.
Got a Venge Pro ordered for me today, if it's correct I will get it next week
Got a Venge Pro ordered for me today, if it's correct I will get it next week
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My Venge Pro weighed in at ~17.5 lbs (in 54cm, charcoal / rainbow paint scheme) after these modifications:
Swapped BB to a BB30 cartridge
Replaced R8000 Crank with a Quarq DFour with 9000 series 52/36 rings
Installed Stainless Speedplay zeros
2 S-works Carbon cages installed
Garmin mount installed.
Everything else (Bars, stem, saddle, cassette, wheels, tires) are stock.
Swapped BB to a BB30 cartridge
Replaced R8000 Crank with a Quarq DFour with 9000 series 52/36 rings
Installed Stainless Speedplay zeros
2 S-works Carbon cages installed
Garmin mount installed.
Everything else (Bars, stem, saddle, cassette, wheels, tires) are stock.
Any chance you got a weight before alterations? It has been reported the 56 cm (as purchased) comes in at 7.45 kg (16.42 lbs). Pedals are about 200 g...the other components total 250 g? What type of mount are you using? Please post some thoughts on the bike after you put some miles on it.dznuzz wrote: ↑Thu Aug 23, 2018 8:17 pmMy Venge Pro weighed in at ~17.5 lbs (in 54cm, charcoal / rainbow paint scheme) after these modifications:
Swapped BB to a BB30 cartridge
Replaced R8000 Crank with a Quarq DFour with 9000 series 52/36 rings
Installed Stainless Speedplay zeros
2 S-works Carbon cages installed
Garmin mount installed.
Everything else (Bars, stem, saddle, cassette, wheels, tires) are stock.
I believe when I weighed the bike pre-customization it came to about 16.4 lbs but I neglected to write everything down.
I should note that I also replaced the rear derailleur (Ultegra 8050 GS with a Dura Ace 9150 SS, so there were some savings there).
As for the ride characteristics: Definitely a nice ride, especially for an aero bike, but it isn't the equivalent of the new Tarmac (I decided to blow my entire bank account on my swap to dsics so I also got an S-works Tarmac Disc). The Tarmac Disc (With pedals, same cages and a K-Edge Garmin mount) comes in at 15.4 lbs with the CLX 50 wheels and DA cassette (All other things are stock). The bike tends to have a lot more audible chatter than the tarmac and it is not as smooth riding over bad pavement, not necessarily bad (Better when compared to a Felt AR) but it doesn't soak things up like the Tarmac. The handling is still really sharp and I don't get any 'un-easyness' in corners when leaning the bike. Tire clearance is massive, possibly greater than the Tarmac but I haven't done real measurements to confirm
The Garmin mount attached to the Venge is the mount that comes with the bike. The mount is one of the more impressive things about the whole system, it is well integrated, aero, and comes with the pieces necessary to attach any computer (Garmin, Cat-eye, SRM) supports large or small computers, has a GoPro bottom mount and has an attachment to let you strap non-GoPro lights to the bottom.
As for people wondering about the stem: It could easily be installed on any bike, you might need to not use the cable management system on it's underside since it is really designed to tuck the cabling into the headset, but otherwise you could add it to any bike, the only caveat is that it would look strange sitting on top of a non-Venge headset cap since it has a truncated teardrop shape that expends backwards a good bit past the steerer tube.
I should note that I also replaced the rear derailleur (Ultegra 8050 GS with a Dura Ace 9150 SS, so there were some savings there).
As for the ride characteristics: Definitely a nice ride, especially for an aero bike, but it isn't the equivalent of the new Tarmac (I decided to blow my entire bank account on my swap to dsics so I also got an S-works Tarmac Disc). The Tarmac Disc (With pedals, same cages and a K-Edge Garmin mount) comes in at 15.4 lbs with the CLX 50 wheels and DA cassette (All other things are stock). The bike tends to have a lot more audible chatter than the tarmac and it is not as smooth riding over bad pavement, not necessarily bad (Better when compared to a Felt AR) but it doesn't soak things up like the Tarmac. The handling is still really sharp and I don't get any 'un-easyness' in corners when leaning the bike. Tire clearance is massive, possibly greater than the Tarmac but I haven't done real measurements to confirm
The Garmin mount attached to the Venge is the mount that comes with the bike. The mount is one of the more impressive things about the whole system, it is well integrated, aero, and comes with the pieces necessary to attach any computer (Garmin, Cat-eye, SRM) supports large or small computers, has a GoPro bottom mount and has an attachment to let you strap non-GoPro lights to the bottom.
As for people wondering about the stem: It could easily be installed on any bike, you might need to not use the cable management system on it's underside since it is really designed to tuck the cabling into the headset, but otherwise you could add it to any bike, the only caveat is that it would look strange sitting on top of a non-Venge headset cap since it has a truncated teardrop shape that expends backwards a good bit past the steerer tube.
^^^ Nice real-world comparison with the SL6. This is exactly what I'm interested in learning about as both bikes are on the short list for me. Of course, in Florida, we don't have much for hills, so the Venge makes more sense for the aero aspect of it, but the comfort, weight, etc. of the new Tarmac seems almost legendary from everything you read. I just hate the exposed cables. Other bikes on the short list are Madone SLR, BMC Teammachine SLR01, and the new Timemachine Road (all are disc/di2 with integrated cockpits).
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