SuperSix Evo 2016 bottom bracket help

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mike001100
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by mike001100

Hello,

I am looking for a bottom bracket (ceramic) for my 2016 Cannondale SuperSix Evo HiMod. I have found several products and obtained several recommendations and in effect, I am slightly confused:

Kogel - say to use PF30-L, Shallow insert:
https://www.kogel.cc/collections/cannon ... rnal-wires

C bear - PF30A Cannondale Super Six Evo, this one: https://www.c-bear.com/en/products/bott ... 0-fsa-sram

Ceramic Speed - tells me I only need bearings: http://www.ceramicspeed.com/sport/produ ... 2&sku=BB30

Now... who is right, and which one is the lightest? I mean, with Kogel and C Bear, it looks like I would be installing a whole "cups and sleeve" contraption which is certainly heavier than just bearings in the Ceramicspeed kit, no?

Or, does the Ceramicspeed kit re-use cups that are inserted in the Cannondale frame, and the other two manufacturers provide new cups for the bearings?

All in all, I would not like to purchase a bottom bracket that will make my bike 50g heavier as I am going for a "reliable WW build", so please advise :)

Thank you.

Bigger Gear
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by Bigger Gear

Not sure about the CeramicSpeed stuff, but my buddy has the Kogel BB in his 2016 Super Six Evo and it has been awesome from a creaking standpoint. Totally silent. To me that is worth 50 grams!!
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wingguy
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by wingguy

The CeramicSpeed you've listed is not the equivalent of the other two as it is a BB30 kit not a PF30A kit. It won't fit on it's own.

The direct solution for the Evo is the PF4630, a similar 'contraption' to the others. http://www.ceramicspeed.com/sport/produ ... ht/386EVO)

mike001100
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by mike001100

Ok, great, thank you,

so, all in all I am looking at weight savings of approx. 45g using the stock cups and bearings, rather than the other setups?

Beancouter
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by Beancouter

I was similarly confused and gave up and ordered the c-bear!


Would be interested in weight differences compared to the ‘stock’ item. Will publish weight of c-bear when it turns up. Any idea what stock spec is?

The other point to note is that the 2016 hi mod should be PF30a (the bottom bracket is 5mm wider than PF30. I believe the c-bear you need may be different to the one linked above. You should check before you buy.

The sales pitch of c-bear, if I understand it that the B.B. is sized both to the B.B. width and crank type, avoiding the need for spacers (although that may be sales BS)

Oh, and if you get from sigma sports GIRO20 will get you £20 off!


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mike001100
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by mike001100

I believe - based on a quick google search - we are looking at somewhere around 60 g for the cups and bearings, and 100g+ for the "contraption".

wingguy
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by wingguy

Beancouter wrote:
Thu May 17, 2018 7:54 pm
The other point to note is that the 2016 hi mod should be PF30a (the bottom bracket is 5mm wider than PF30. I believe the c-bear you need may be different to the one linked above.
No, he clearly linked to the PF30A version of the C-Bear.

Beancouter
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by Beancouter

Wingguy - stand corrected - the link had the ‘a’ missing


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