revoloop review? feedback?
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Hi,
It's been 8 weeks and 1,000km+ since I last wrote. My revoloops are as good as new, holding air nicely, still feeling fast.
I am slightly paranoid about puncturing them - because I'm not sure how to mend them, and they are pretty expensive.
I think they are perfect race day tubes, or special event tubes, rather then everyday commuting around city streets with glass or country lanes with flint chippings.
They were brilliant for our week in the alps, and worth every penny on those days.
R.
It's been 8 weeks and 1,000km+ since I last wrote. My revoloops are as good as new, holding air nicely, still feeling fast.
I am slightly paranoid about puncturing them - because I'm not sure how to mend them, and they are pretty expensive.
I think they are perfect race day tubes, or special event tubes, rather then everyday commuting around city streets with glass or country lanes with flint chippings.
They were brilliant for our week in the alps, and worth every penny on those days.
R.
Thanks for your reply! From what i read (the few bits available online) they seem to be not supple on the road. Sort of a butyl/hard feel. Is that right?richard@lbrc.org wrote: ↑Wed Sep 19, 2018 7:36 pmHi,
It's been 8 weeks and 1,000km+ since I last wrote. My revoloops are as good as new, holding air nicely, still feeling fast.
I am slightly paranoid about puncturing them - because I'm not sure how to mend them, and they are pretty expensive.
I think they are perfect race day tubes, or special event tubes, rather then everyday commuting around city streets with glass or country lanes with flint chippings.
They were brilliant for our week in the alps, and worth every penny on those days.
R.
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I would say they feel harder than latex, but they are so much lighter. Difficult balance. To me they feel faster, not sure what a lab would say. Going back to latex certainly my feels slower. I didn't really much about with pressure (I am 75kg, run 8bar in my tyres}. plenty of room to adjust I guess.
Interested to hear what others think.
R.
Interested to hear what others think.
R.
Zero updates from others!richard@lbrc.org wrote: ↑Thu Sep 20, 2018 8:54 pmI would say they feel harder than latex, but they are so much lighter. Difficult balance. To me they feel faster, not sure what a lab would say. Going back to latex certainly my feels slower. I didn't really much about with pressure (I am 75kg, run 8bar in my tyres}. plenty of room to adjust I guess.
Interested to hear what others think.
R.
I am still tempted, but I'm gonna be stocking up on Vredestein Latex tubes soon.
I went back to latex and some cotton casings and...man. What a feel.
Def worth the loss of air overnight.
Compared to tubeless... it's just so much nicer.
Is there anywhere (EU) to buy them, like in stock? The manufacturer's page said that it's currently unavailable (as well as many other models), in some web shops that the delivery time is several weeks. Is it possible that is so much demand? Or is it just a little bit weird?
Btw. I'm looking for white, 40mm valve, 40 grams.
Btw. I'm looking for white, 40mm valve, 40 grams.
bike-components.de, r2-bike.comStanK wrote: ↑Wed Jun 12, 2019 9:31 pmIs there anywhere (EU) to buy them, like in stock? The manufacturer's page said that it's currently unavailable (as well as many other models), in some web shops that the delivery time is several weeks. Is it possible that is so much demand? Or is it just a little bit weird?
Btw. I'm looking for white, 40mm valve, 40 grams.
Long-rerm review:
I'm using Revoloop.white with Vittoria Corsa G+. Ride feel is pretty close to latex. Durable, keeps air like butyl. Tubes can be unmounted and mounted again without issues. No issues with rim brakes with carbon rims.
The main disadvantage is valves.
1. It's very hard to find "right" pump head for smooth plastic valves. Hirame, SKS and Silca push heads just blows-out from valves on high pressures. I finished with Lezyne ABS-1 PRO HP chuck. Hint: use blue loctite on presta cores and cure for 24h.
2. Presta cores failed after some inflations: compression ring popped off from place. Replaced with stan's - no more issues.
After deal with pump and presta cores I'm absolutelly happy.
I'm using Revoloop.white with Vittoria Corsa G+. Ride feel is pretty close to latex. Durable, keeps air like butyl. Tubes can be unmounted and mounted again without issues. No issues with rim brakes with carbon rims.
The main disadvantage is valves.
1. It's very hard to find "right" pump head for smooth plastic valves. Hirame, SKS and Silca push heads just blows-out from valves on high pressures. I finished with Lezyne ABS-1 PRO HP chuck. Hint: use blue loctite on presta cores and cure for 24h.
2. Presta cores failed after some inflations: compression ring popped off from place. Replaced with stan's - no more issues.
After deal with pump and presta cores I'm absolutelly happy.
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8 bar? That's 116 PSI, I thought those days were over.richard@lbrc.org wrote: ↑Thu Sep 20, 2018 8:54 pmI would say they feel harder than latex, but they are so much lighter. Difficult balance. To me they feel faster, not sure what a lab would say. Going back to latex certainly my feels slower. I didn't really much about with pressure (I am 75kg, run 8bar in my tyres}. plenty of room to adjust I guess.
Interested to hear what others think.
R.
With your weight I would not inflate more than 6 bar unless these revoloop really require more air pressure ?
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Not in stock.
I bought some of these from BikeInn. I tried to install them carefully. They both developed multiple punctures within 15 miles. Most odd is that one of them developed a perfectly straight and clean slice, maybe one quarter of an inch long, running exactly perpendicular to the rotational direction of the wheel. The only thing I can imagine causing that cut is the end of the rim tape.
Anyway, IMO these are far, far too fragile for real world use. There is a reason you can hardly find them anywhere despite the great $/gram saved ratio.
Anyway, IMO these are far, far too fragile for real world use. There is a reason you can hardly find them anywhere despite the great $/gram saved ratio.
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I've been running road tubeless with fragile Vittoria Corsa Speed since almost one year ago and had the first flat after 8.000 km.
Then I thought I'd give the Tubolito S-Tubo a try, used them in S-Works Turbo Cottons.
And have had the first flat after only 700 km. Replaced for another one. Exactly same happened as with tallterry: failure within few miles, straight slice.
So two flats within 700 km. 50 Euros out the window. Am not amused.
Edit: just realized this is the Revoloop thread... sorry for posting about Tubolitos here. But its the same TPU material anyways
Then I thought I'd give the Tubolito S-Tubo a try, used them in S-Works Turbo Cottons.
And have had the first flat after only 700 km. Replaced for another one. Exactly same happened as with tallterry: failure within few miles, straight slice.
So two flats within 700 km. 50 Euros out the window. Am not amused.
Edit: just realized this is the Revoloop thread... sorry for posting about Tubolitos here. But its the same TPU material anyways
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I am not a fan of Specialized, but i like the Turbo tube with talc.
It's just as light as latex tubes, but doesn't lose air pressure as fast (and IMO, more durable).
It's just as light as latex tubes, but doesn't lose air pressure as fast (and IMO, more durable).
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I think punctures are just down to luck, honestly. Latex or thin butyl will puncture just as readily as revoloop or tubolito.
I've been running them for about a month or so, and no issues so far. Have to say that GP5000 with revoloop feels better on the road than GP5000 TL - where I think the thick inner layer of butyl makes the casing much bouncier. In any case, revoloops or tubolitos are certainly good for a spare kit.
I've been running them for about a month or so, and no issues so far. Have to say that GP5000 with revoloop feels better on the road than GP5000 TL - where I think the thick inner layer of butyl makes the casing much bouncier. In any case, revoloops or tubolitos are certainly good for a spare kit.
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Fitted white Revoloops about 500k ago whilst replacing GP 5000tl's with Pirelli p zero's, both 25mm. Like night and day. I never really got on with the Conti's so when one punctured and wouldn't seal properly I gave the Revoloops a try. So far I'm very happy. Much nicer ride and much lighter to boot. They hold pressure well, are easy to fit and I've had no valve or puncture issues. I live in the Alps where the roads are generally pretty smooth. Running them at 6 bar and I weigh 64kg.