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The top 3 had an option of riding discs. I imagined discs would be an advantage especially for P-R and still a lot were on rim brakes.
Were there riders using tubeless?

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From the results we can conclude that Specialized bikes are the best. All others are slower.
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jlok wrote:
Tue Apr 10, 2018 3:00 am
From the results we can conclude that Specialized bikes are the best. All others are slower.
except Factor got second..I can only conclude bikes mades in China/Taiwan are better.
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jlok wrote:From the results we can conclude that Specialized bikes are the best. All others are slower.
Finally... now you’re getting the whole idea behind sponsorship and winning. That is EXACTLY what they want you to conclude. End of class. You seemed surprised. :)
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and 100% glasses are the fastest on cobbles! stick to them mate :)
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And people even question why manufacturers are pushing discs into the peloton. Ha. Well, there’s the reason. It’s certainly not because anyone is asking for them. Because if they were, it would have been a done deal years ago.
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and tubulars are winning the races, anything else is inferior! oh wait... they used endurance machines to win races? it's purely marketing!
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Yes, now you’re onto it. Sponsorship IS marketing. Well done. Gold star.
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TobinHatesYou wrote:
Mon Apr 09, 2018 11:39 pm
A 65kg rider putting out 5w/kg is faster than a 60kg rider putting out 5w/kg under ALL circumstances.
Wrong.
TobinHatesYou wrote:
Mon Apr 09, 2018 8:20 pm
Tubulars are inferior.
Good Lord, wrong.

Where do you find this stuff on the internet? Did you get a Bikeforum's black belt and have to come over here to show it off?

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RyanH wrote:
Tue Apr 10, 2018 4:23 am
TobinHatesYou wrote:
Mon Apr 09, 2018 11:39 pm
A 65kg rider putting out 5w/kg is faster than a 60kg rider putting out 5w/kg under ALL circumstances.
Wrong.
TobinHatesYou wrote:
Mon Apr 09, 2018 8:20 pm
Tubulars are inferior.
Good Lord, wrong.

I can't tell if you're trolling. I hope you are, but this forum is so delightfully ignorant.

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Citation please... I’m still laughing over your requests for citations needed from others. If we asked you for citations, it’s pretty obvious they would be found in the first two Google hits on the topic.
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Calnago wrote:
Tue Apr 10, 2018 4:30 am
Citation please... I’m still laughing over your requests for citations needed from others. If we asked you for citations, it’s pretty obvious they would be found in the first two Google hits on the topic.

GOOGOLE. Find a new meme.

So Calnago, do you think a 65kg cyclist putting out 5w/kg is slower than a 60kg cyclist putting out 5w/kg going down, up or on flat ground? Do you think the best tubulars are faster than the best tubeless clinchers going down, up or on flat ground?

Everyone should weigh in. I want to tally the results!

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If there’s a turn in the road, you want to be on a Tubular. If you go completely flat, you can still ride if you have to. Just watching Paris Roubaix right now... I think it’s Stybar they’re showing riding along on a completely flat tire until he can get a replacement. Not going to be doing that on any clincher, tubeless or otherwise. Low pressure, you can ride an equivalently sized tubular at lower pressures than you can any tubeless. Excuse me... Burp. If you want to feel as safe as possible, you’ll be on a Tubular. If you want to ride a TT in a straight line with no regard for handling characteristics, then use a clincher, I don’t care. Have fun.
Oh and you know what else... I didn’t even have to look any of that stuff up.
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I instant flatted my IRC Formula Pro Light Tubeless on Deer Creek Rd in Malibu because, well, I believe that series of tire to have a design flaw. The bead stayed in place and I rode out the last 15 miles of Phil's Double Fudge on that tire. This is a pretty common practice on tubeless. If for some reason you cannot repair a flat, the bead lock on the shelf keeps everything in place. My tires also don't burp or snakebite at 40-45psi. Clearly a metric shitload of riders got snakebites in P-R yesterday.

Clearly Campagnolo thinks tubeless is the way forward. They are objectively faster, they have the same level of security when completely flat, and they are more resilient when punctured.

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Campagnolo produced a couple of new clincher TT type wheels. Maybe I’ll get one for my TT rig as I sold my 808. Clinchers for that is the way to go. You won’t see them coming down the technical descents in any Grand Tour however. And Tri guys wear funny socks. They’re weird. Is Campagnolo abandoning the tubular Bora 50’s and 35’s?

Oh, and all those things I mentioned in my last post... that’s before we even begin to talk about weight savings and overall comfort.

Now, excuse me while I rewind to watch Dekenkolbs bike throw. Hadn’t seen that before.
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