Better bike for endurance

Discuss light weight issues concerning road bikes & parts.
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jih
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by jih

07stuntin6r wrote:
Wed Mar 28, 2018 7:05 pm
I'd love to ride after work but I usually don't get home u til 530pm and up at 430am to head to work.
The 4:30 start doesn't sound great.

But getting in at 17:30 doesn't sound too bad.

Why don't you get a turbo trainer and do an hour a day when you get home from work? There are plenty of good training platforms (zwift, trainerroad) that you could use.

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07stuntin6r
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by 07stuntin6r

jih wrote:
07stuntin6r wrote:
Wed Mar 28, 2018 7:05 pm
I'd love to ride after work but I usually don't get home u til 530pm and up at 430am to head to work.
The 4:30 start doesn't sound great.

But getting in at 17:30 doesn't sound too bad.

Why don't you get a turbo trainer and do an hour a day when you get home from work? There are plenty of good training platforms (zwift, trainerroad) that you could use.
Yeah I plan to get a trainer trying to figure out if I want a used cycleops fluid or the one from performance bike for 100 can't remember the name.

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jih
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by jih

07stuntin6r wrote:
Sat Mar 31, 2018 11:48 am
Yeah I plan to get a trainer trying to figure out if I want a used cycleops fluid or the one from performance bike for 100 can't remember the name.
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If you don't already have a powermeter on your bike, get whichever trainer can send power numbers via ANT or bluetooth to a computer. The ability to run a proper training program is much better that way.

I have a tacx neo and I love it.

dricked
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by dricked

Using a smart trainer also forces you to change gears with the different grades. Keeps you more engaged I feel and you won’t wear out just 2 or 3 gears on your casette lol.

AJS914
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by AJS914

Get a smart trainer. Don't get a $100 peformance trainer.

Vermu
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by Vermu

tabl10s wrote:
Noctiluxx wrote:
Mon Mar 26, 2018 12:03 am
Get a red bike to make you go faster and a pink to make you last longer.
Are you saying a pink bike would make him less excited.... Bwahaha:D!
Cuz red uns go fastah!

But yeah, honestly all the diet discussion is a bit out of context.
Forget all that and just ride. Rest will come together.


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by wingguy

bremerradkurier wrote:
Wed Mar 28, 2018 8:49 pm
If you want to get leaner and meaner while not starving, a ketogenic diet high in fat and low in carbs might work for you.

I'm 5'10 and went from 205 to 170 during last year's riding season and after a short adaption time was able to do 40-50 mile group rides with 900 meters of elevation at a 16-17 mph after a bacon and egg breakfast with coconut oil and heavy cream laced coffee drinking nothing but water on the ride.
So you did a season of riding and lost weight? Unbelieveable - it must be the crazy fad diet that did it! :lol:

Maybe if you ate like a normal person you'd lose weight and be able to ride at a less boring pace 8)

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by wingguy

TheKaiser wrote:
Fri Mar 30, 2018 7:37 pm
There are an equal number of doctors who will tell you that going keto, or at the very least low carb/high fat, is the best diet solution.
An equal number? *f##k* no. An 'equal number' of doctors aren't going to advise any kind of specialist diet compared to those who give normal advice.

The vast majority of doctors will tell you the same thing they've been telling you for the last 100 years. Compared to an average modern diet you just; Eat more vegetables and fruit. Eat more fresh. Eat more savoury. Eat less processed. Eat less meat. Eat less refined sugar. That's pretty much it, and everything else is window dressing.

In fact, the most simple way of stating it would be just 'eat the right amount of real food'. If you avoid the temptation to overthink it I think we all know pretty much what that means, don't we? :noidea:

07stuntin6r
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by 07stuntin6r

I've seen one from performance bike the B+ can run swift. Is that a decent one? I don't want to spend too much just want a quiet one that will last awhile.

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07stuntin6r
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Correct, I went for a ride today for an hour. It wasn't too uncomfortable. I did notice when I was in the drops my groin hurt more which I believe was due to the seat not having a bigger channel... could be wrong. Also felt like when pedaling it was able to be done just felt like I could've been farther back on the seat maybe. I plan on getting fitted again when I have the time. Place near work uses cameras etc and takes about 2 hrs. Any recommendations on decent seat with a nice channel or maybe one with a sloped nose would be better. I've looked at the fabric ones which seem like a good but same as the prologo scratch or a specialized power seat.

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bremerradkurier
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by bremerradkurier

wingguy wrote:
Sat Mar 31, 2018 8:33 pm
bremerradkurier wrote:
Wed Mar 28, 2018 8:49 pm
If you want to get leaner and meaner while not starving, a ketogenic diet high in fat and low in carbs might work for you.

I'm 5'10 and went from 205 to 170 during last year's riding season and after a short adaption time was able to do 40-50 mile group rides with 900 meters of elevation at a 16-17 mph after a bacon and egg breakfast with coconut oil and heavy cream laced coffee drinking nothing but water on the ride.
So you did a season of riding and lost weight? Unbelieveable - it must be the crazy fad diet that did it! :lol:

Maybe if you ate like a normal person you'd lose weight and be able to ride at a less boring pace 8)
I'd have to tabulate the total kJ my power meter posted to my .fit files, but I'm pretty sure I didn't rack up anywhere close to 122500 last year that would ccorrespond to losing 35 lbs on a 3500 kcal: 1 lb weight loss in/out basis.

Regarding pacing, you can only go so fast in my local suburban AO; still hitting over 50 mph on some local descents, 1400 watts peak power, and 1070 for 5s-can't really say I'm not bored when riding.

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by themidge

07stuntin6r wrote:
Sat Mar 31, 2018 9:33 pm
Also felt like when pedaling it was able to be done just felt like I could've been farther back on the seat maybe. I plan on getting fitted again when I have the time. Place near work uses cameras etc and takes about 2 hrs.
Don't spend loads of money (and time) on getting a bike fit just because of that one thing. Experiment, see what works and what doesn't, you'll quickly find your way, as it were.

General point:
I wish people would stop preaching about bike fits as if they're some kind of magic thing that everyone must
have in order to be truly comfy on a bike. As above, there's no harm in experimenting with different things, and its really not that hard to change a stem or adjust a saddle.
:hello:
Cannondale Supersix 2008 (weight: 7.3kg)
B'twin Triban 540 (in bits)
Vitus "Benotto" 979 (weight: :? )
Pre-War Hetchins Brilliant (weight: it's a touring bike)

07stuntin6r
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by 07stuntin6r

themidge wrote:
07stuntin6r wrote:
Sat Mar 31, 2018 9:33 pm
Also felt like when pedaling it was able to be done just felt like I could've been farther back on the seat maybe. I plan on getting fitted again when I have the time. Place near work uses cameras etc and takes about 2 hrs.
Don't spend loads of money (and time) on getting a bike fit just because of that one thing. Experiment, see what works and what doesn't, you'll quickly find your way, as it were.

General point:
I wish people would stop preaching about bike fits as if they're some kind of magic thing that everyone must
have in order to be truly comfy on a bike. As above, there's no harm in experimenting with different things, and its really not that hard to change a stem or adjust a saddle.
In regards to stems how do I know which size to order? I know my stock one is 70mm, but when I look at them there's two measurements.

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otoman
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by otoman

To summarize, you got a frame that is likely too small with an ass hatchet for a saddle stocked with a 70mm stem. I’m shaking my head as that is exactly the kind of bike shop disservice that turns bikes into expensive clothes drying racks.

The common thread in the responses is that you need to have a race bike on which you can ride long distances so that you can do the high intensity crits comfortably. This is outstanding advice.

Don’t get sucked into the n+1 mindset. Change your saddle, flip the stem, work on your core strength and flexibility, don’t eat after dinner. Lay off the sweets and booze. Remember that pain is weakness (and fatness) leaving the body.

Good on you for getting out there and racing! Keep it up! Only Greg freakin’ LeMond won his first race.
Age and treachery shall overcome youth and skill
Courir c’est mourir un peu

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by GothicCastle

07stuntin6r wrote:
Sun Mar 25, 2018 10:11 pm
Anyways I am looking for a bike I can ride further distances say 30-50mi. I've gone 20 on my current bike, but I want something with a more upright ride height so I can log more miles.
If you think you need a special bike to ride 50 miles, spend your money on a good training plan. No bicycle is going to get you in shape.

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