Campagnolo 12-Speed

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mattyNor
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by mattyNor

liam7020 wrote:That's interesting info matty. Any idea if the existing V3 battery will be compatible with the new 12sp EPS? I have Record EPS on my Sunday best bike and would hope to upgrade to 12sp EPS but it would save a bit of spannering time (and moolah!) if the current battery didn't have to be removed.
I wouldn't count on it but the rep had very few details other than an assurance the new group will be more "elegant"

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liam7020 wrote:That's interesting info matty. Any idea if the existing V3 battery will be compatible with the new 12sp EPS? I have Record EPS on my Sunday best bike and would hope to upgrade to 12sp EPS but it would save a bit of spannering time (and moolah!) if the current battery didn't have to be removed.
Having seen the product codes for 12 Speed I can tell you the short answer is no. The brain of the system is in the Power Unit.


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mattyNor wrote:
Sat Aug 11, 2018 12:13 pm
Met with the Eastern N.A. campy rep today.

1. There is a duel sided stages power meter in development for 12s, no other company has contacted campy power meter wise but that doesn't necessarily mean they aren't in development

Ive had multiple email conversations with P2Max and SRM.. P2Max IS directly supporting the new 12 speed... P2Max told me via email that its upto Campagnolo on how they want it to look..which he said to me was the crank design... new style look, or old style look.

SRM has told me that they have no plans to redesign the current unit at all, and its all in the new chainring... they feel that the new offset is negligible...

Campagnolo supplies the crankarms to both SRM and P2Max, so ultimately its upto Campy on how the new units arms will look... he kind of mentioned don't expect to hear anything in August though as Italy mostly shuts down LOL

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^Thanks, c60rider.
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by WorkonSunday

I wonder what will happen if you use this new 12 speed chain on current 11 speed system. especially towards the biggest cog in the cassette where the gap is largest. will it fall off unexpectedly? im thinking getting the new crank but not the rear half just yet.

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I can't imagine many people have tried that yet.

I have a small campy question and I'll try this topic rather than starting a new one. I noticed some vendors selling Campy inline cable adjusters:

https://www.totalcycling.com/en/us/Camp ... 22752.aspx

Is this a new item? Does Campy ship them with the current cable set or are they just an accessory?

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The inline adjuster is not new. It comes with a new ergolever/cable set for 2015 and newer groups. It is for the fine adjustment of front derailleur cable tension. I’m trying to remember if it actually comes in the cable package or if it is included as part of the ergo lever package (which includes all cables, etc). I know it comes as part of the ergolever/cable package but just not sure if it would come with a separate cable package. Maybe not, so good to know you can get it separately.
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Cool. I'll have to check if I have one as I have a set of unopened 2015 levers/cables.

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Calnago wrote:The inline adjuster is not new. It comes with a new ergolever/cable set for 2015 and newer groups. It is for the fine adjustment of front derailleur cable tension. I’m trying to remember if it actually comes in the cable package or if it is included as part of the ergo lever package (which includes all cables, etc). I know it comes as part of the ergolever/cable package but just not sure if it would come with a separate cable package. Maybe not, so good to know you can get it separately.
It comes with the 11 speed Ergopowers only. Cable kit doesn’t include it.


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WorkonSunday wrote:
Tue Aug 14, 2018 4:55 pm
I wonder what will happen if you use this new 12 speed chain on current 11 speed system. especially towards the biggest cog in the cassette where the gap is largest. will it fall off unexpectedly? im thinking getting the new crank but not the rear half just yet.
Prob won't be a HUGE difference, but you do know that the new crank has 1mm more offset than the 11s to accomodate for the 12s.

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ParisCarbon wrote:
Tue Aug 14, 2018 7:25 pm
Prob won't be a HUGE difference, but you do know that the new crank has 1mm more offset than the 11s to accomodate for the 12s.
hmmm....I wasn't aware of that....sounds like I may need new front mech too.

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mattyNor wrote:
Sat Aug 11, 2018 12:13 pm
2. EPS is on route and will not be wiseless but should be more clean and easier to hide wires than the current version. Something interesting I didn't know, Shimano has some how managed to patent plugging a wire into a bicycle component. This was one of the major reasons etap went wireless and why campy is stuck using a wiring harness type idea.
Meant to ask you earlier - when you say the 12sp EPS is "on route" did the rep give you any indication of the time frame on that one? Cheers.
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New EPS has been projected for NOV18. However, it's more a wait and see. Imagry has not even been provided to companies looking to spec it yet.

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Ta
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Today Campy USA told me an "arrival" date of Jan 2019.. It wasnt specified if that was an "arrival in North America" or an arrival to the world... If they meant arrival in North America, id expect to hear something shortly... read rumors of it being tested at the Vuelta.. guess we'll see soon enough! Also some interesting notes on wheels, the "Bora One" lineup will be the disc offerings.. the hub needs the aluminum flange support on the disc side... they told me just add Cult bearings for Bora Ultra rolling resistance (read that before) The WTO lineup will not be coming disc , rim only.


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