Campagnolo 12-Speed

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gwerziou
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by gwerziou

joralieu wrote:
Sun Jun 28, 2020 5:31 pm
Glory Cycles, The cables are all there except for the rear derailleur housing from the chain stay stop to the rear derailleur.
Glory Cycles is super sketchy. As long as the order goes very smoothly all is well, but if there is the slightest complication you may find yourself wishing fervently that you had gone anywhere else.


joeyb1000
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by joeyb1000

joralieu wrote:
Sun Jun 28, 2020 2:00 pm
My 12 speed record shifters came with only 2 pieces of deraileur cable housing. Should be 3, 2 for the shifters and one for the chainstay stop to the deraileur. Anyone else have this problem?
Just a note. You can use the casing from 11s as a substitute, but you must use 12s cables.

You should have received 2 cables, 3 casings, 1 inline adjuster and 4 plastic ferrules.

joralieu
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by joralieu

Yes, I end up using some older ultra low friction casing I had on hand. Looks like the same stuff.

robertbb
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by robertbb

gwerziou wrote:
Wed Jul 08, 2020 4:50 pm
joralieu wrote:
Sun Jun 28, 2020 5:31 pm
Glory Cycles, The cables are all there except for the rear derailleur housing from the chain stay stop to the rear derailleur.
Glory Cycles is super sketchy. As long as the order goes very smoothly all is well, but if there is the slightest complication you may find yourself wishing fervently that you had gone anywhere else.
Really? Claaaaave DeSuza? Well I'm shocked :wink:

Vespasianus
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by Vespasianus

gwerziou wrote:
Wed Jul 08, 2020 4:50 pm
joralieu wrote:
Sun Jun 28, 2020 5:31 pm
Glory Cycles, The cables are all there except for the rear derailleur housing from the chain stay stop to the rear derailleur.
Glory Cycles is super sketchy. As long as the order goes very smoothly all is well, but if there is the slightest complication you may find yourself wishing fervently that you had gone anywhere else.
That is interesting. I had ordered some things from them and noticed that no manuals or any documentation came with the item. Thought it was odd but just thought that was how things go now a days.

WorkonSunday
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by WorkonSunday

Hi all, Any one know if the bearings that come with the Chorus 12 Chainset are USB or just steel bearings? They used to say it's USB for record and chorus, then CULT for Super Record, but now only SR says it's special bearings.... :noidea:
Some say pour 10ml water out of your bottle to save that last bit of the weight. Sorry, i go one step further, i tend to the rider off my bikes. :thumbup:

Alexandrumarian
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by Alexandrumarian

No, chorus used to be steel, record usb, sr cult. I bet they kept the same for 12s.

WorkonSunday
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by WorkonSunday

Alexandrumarian wrote:
Fri Jul 17, 2020 10:48 am
No, chorus used to be steel, record usb, sr cult. I bet they kept the same for 12s.
i see. thanks. :beerchug:
Some say pour 10ml water out of your bottle to save that last bit of the weight. Sorry, i go one step further, i tend to the rider off my bikes. :thumbup:

rollinslow
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by rollinslow

Does anyone know whether there is a max chainstay length with the 12s EPS disc group? I was planning to put this on my mosaic gravel bike unless the 1x13 group manifests soon. I reviewed the campy manuals and didn't see anything.

My chain stays will be 135mm in order to accommodate up to 45mm tires. Originally were going to be 125mm but that would have limited my tire clearance and I didn't want to be boxed into having to use a wide" version of SRAM or GRX.
Moots Vamoots RSL (2019)-Dura Ace 9100
Cervelo S1 (2010)-Super Record 12 (viewtopic.php?f=10&t=161577)
Kestrel RT700 (2008)-Dura Ace 9000
Mosaic GT-1 (2020)-in build queue

morrisond
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by morrisond

rollinslow wrote:
Tue Jul 21, 2020 11:37 pm
Does anyone know whether there is a max chainstay length with the 12s EPS disc group? I was planning to put this on my mosaic gravel bike unless the 1x13 group manifests soon. I reviewed the campy manuals and didn't see anything.

My chain stays will be 135mm in order to accommodate up to 45mm tires. Originally were going to be 125mm but that would have limited my tire clearance and I didn't want to be boxed into having to use a wide" version of SRAM or GRX.
I think you might mean 435 vs 425mm chainstays - and no there won't be an issue - the longer the better.

Although 11sp - I'm running Campy Potenza (but also ran a Record HO RD on that bike) on a bike with 460mm stays. That was a PITA as finding cables (as I'm using Campy TT shifters in the ends of the drops) and a Chain long enough was a challenge. I ended up using Jagwire and an SRAM XX1 MTB Chain - shifts great.

You will be fine with standard Campy chain and cables with 435mm stays.

rollinslow
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by rollinslow

morrisond wrote:
Wed Jul 22, 2020 3:32 am
rollinslow wrote:
Tue Jul 21, 2020 11:37 pm
Does anyone know whether there is a max chainstay length with the 12s EPS disc group? I was planning to put this on my mosaic gravel bike unless the 1x13 group manifests soon. I reviewed the campy manuals and didn't see anything.

My chain stays will be 135mm in order to accommodate up to 45mm tires. Originally were going to be 125mm but that would have limited my tire clearance and I didn't want to be boxed into having to use a wide" version of SRAM or GRX.
I think you might mean 435 vs 425mm chainstays - and no there won't be an issue - the longer the better.

Although 11sp - I'm running Campy Potenza (but also ran a Record HO RD on that bike) on a bike with 460mm stays. That was a PITA as finding cables (as I'm using Campy TT shifters in the ends of the drops) and a Chain long enough was a challenge. I ended up using Jagwire and an SRAM XX1 MTB Chain - shifts great.

You will be fine with standard Campy chain and cables with 435mm stays.
Thanks, greatly appreciated! Yeah, I meant to write 435/425mm. Not sure how I came up with 125mm... that would have been some pretty bizarre custom geometry lol.
Moots Vamoots RSL (2019)-Dura Ace 9100
Cervelo S1 (2010)-Super Record 12 (viewtopic.php?f=10&t=161577)
Kestrel RT700 (2008)-Dura Ace 9000
Mosaic GT-1 (2020)-in build queue

Visus
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by Visus

rollinslow wrote:
Tue Jul 21, 2020 11:37 pm
I was planning to put this on my mosaic gravel bike unless the 1x13 group manifests soon.
I would wait for EKAR :wink:

rudye9mr
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by rudye9mr

not specific to campy, but would be great if the major manufacturers would release an electronic RD with lever, battery, wiring etc. only that can later upgrade to FD...in rim and hydraulic...

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by ultimobici

rudye9mr wrote:not specific to campy, but would be great if the major manufacturers would release an electronic RD with lever, battery, wiring etc. only that can later upgrade to FD...in rim and hydraulic...
Shimano’s system is modular as is Sram’s. Campag do not currently offer a 1x system in mechanical or electronic so this would be pointless. Or am I misunderstanding you?


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rudye9mr
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by rudye9mr

in doing a direct mount RD, when removing the linkage, there is a 2mm bolt to take out and a 2mm bolt to install - is this the same 2mm bolt or different bolts?


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