Campagnolo 12-Speed

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Miller
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by Miller

Mascalzone wrote:
Tue Oct 08, 2019 1:15 am
I've managed to find a well priced right side shifter and calliper for the front brake (UK/US/AUS). The only similar priced left side shifter I can find is Euro, which is stated as front brake too.
I didn't pick up on this earlier but people should be aware that the Campag front caliper is physically different to the rear caliper in that it's direct mount to the front fork without use of an intermediate adapter plate. It won't work as a rear caliper.

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by gwerziou

DaveS wrote:
Tue Oct 08, 2019 10:29 pm
Has anyone verified the wrap capacity of a record or SR RD to be sure that it can wrap the 34? I'm using chorus, so it works fine.
I've seen numerous websites claim that they all can handle the 34 but then Campy says they can't... waiting for the definitive test of actually trying it, before I go Campy 12 this next year.


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by DaveS

gwerziou wrote:
Fri Oct 18, 2019 8:58 pm
DaveS wrote:
Tue Oct 08, 2019 10:29 pm
Has anyone verified the wrap capacity of a record or SR RD to be sure that it can wrap the 34? I'm using chorus, so it works fine.
I've seen numerous websites claim that they all can handle the 34 but then Campy says they can't... waiting for the definitive test of actually trying it, before I go Campy 12 this next year.
Remember that working on one bike doesn't mean it will work on all. Chainstay length that's perfect will have more wrap capacity.

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by 1swiftvelo

DaveS wrote:
Sat Oct 19, 2019 2:36 am
gwerziou wrote:
Fri Oct 18, 2019 8:58 pm
DaveS wrote:
Tue Oct 08, 2019 10:29 pm
Has anyone verified the wrap capacity of a record or SR RD to be sure that it can wrap the 34? I'm using chorus, so it works fine.
I've seen numerous websites claim that they all can handle the 34 but then Campy says they can't... waiting for the definitive test of actually trying it, before I go Campy 12 this next year.
Remember that working on one bike doesn't mean it will work on all. Chainstay length that's perfect will have more wrap capacity.
Just got back from unpavedPA 117 mile gravel race. My set up was FSA 46/30 crank set and 11/34 cass out back with record derailer. Worked perfectly. I also swap the 46 to a 48 and keep the 30 on and will shifter perfect.
This set up is on an SWorks Diverge.
I can’t say it will work on other bikes, on mine it works.

keaton
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by keaton

Apologies if I missed this in the thread. (God knows I read plenty of opions on what sized cogs should and shouldn't have been inlcuded!)

Any chance you think Campagnolo will produce a 12s 11/25 cassette?

I have been riding my 12s 11/29 and the extra gears are very nice, and I have gotten used to it. That said the other day I pulled out my 11s bike with 12/25 cassette, and really liked the look of it a lot more. Im not old, but I remember when a 25 on the back was a big gear.

So does anyone thing more cassette options will happen? Or are massive cassettes our only option from here on out?

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by AJS914

My guess is no. They probably don't think there is much demand for it. To me, it doesn't make a lot of sense when you look at the gear ratios. They could most easily make an 11-27 with only having to manufacture one new piece (the last three cogs). To make an 11-25 they would have to manufacture two parts (last six cogs).

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by DaveS

How a cassette LOOKS bothers you? Function is what matters. Flat landers will just have to suffer with unused gears.

The most you could hope for is an 11-27 with a 18T sprocket. Not many people find a use for a 17-18-19.

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mr_tim
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by mr_tim

@ DaveS.
Nah. Flat landers will pass on campag 12v until decent gear ratios are available. I don't want to get a new groupset to end up with a heap of gears I don't use and worse still extra wear on the cogs that are left - condensing cog usage to the limited choice left available.

Hopefully shimano will bring out 12v that is shift compatible - then there will be a fair chance that some decent flat land ratios will be available.

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by DaveS

mr_tim wrote:
Wed Oct 30, 2019 12:16 am
@ DaveS.
Nah. Flat landers will pass on campag 12v until decent gear ratios are available. I don't want to get a new groupset to end up with a heap of gears I don't use and worse still extra wear on the cogs that are left - condensing cog usage to the limited choice left available.

Hopefully shimano will bring out 12v that is shift compatible - then there will be a fair chance that some decent flat land ratios will be available.
You missed my point. The current 11-29 is a straight block up to the 17. The only gear that could be added is an 18. After the 19, any more 1T jumps are stupid. Even an 11-25 11 speed cassette doesn't have an 18.

Mascalzone
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by Mascalzone

Miller wrote:
Mascalzone wrote:
Tue Oct 08, 2019 1:15 am
I've managed to find a well priced right side shifter and calliper for the front brake (UK/US/AUS). The only similar priced left side shifter I can find is Euro, which is stated as front brake too.
I didn't pick up on this earlier but people should be aware that the Campag front caliper is physically different to the rear caliper in that it's direct mount to the front fork without use of an intermediate adapter plate. It won't work as a rear caliper.
Saw this just in time! I ended up returning the AUS shifter and just buying both Euro ones, thanks!

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by robertbb

mr_tim wrote:
Wed Oct 30, 2019 12:16 am
@ DaveS.
Nah. Flat landers will pass on campag 12v until decent gear ratios are available. I don't want to get a new groupset to end up with a heap of gears I don't use and worse still extra wear on the cogs that are left - condensing cog usage to the limited choice left available.

Hopefully shimano will bring out 12v that is shift compatible - then there will be a fair chance that some decent flat land ratios will be available.
What do you mean shift compatible? What's not compatible??

keaton
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by keaton

DaveS wrote:
Tue Oct 29, 2019 10:22 pm
How a cassette LOOKS bothers you? Function is what matters. Flat landers will just have to suffer with unused gears.

The most you could hope for is an 11-27 with a 18T sprocket. Not many people find a use for a 17-18-19.
The way a bike looks seems to be what a lot of this forum is about, and are important to me, sorry lol

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An 11-27 straight to 19 would be nice where I live, to complement my preferred 11-32 for the mountains.
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Butcher
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by Butcher

I would love for them to come out with something a bit more condensed in the upper end. 29 is certainly not something I would use. Campagnolo did mention that they may bring a closer ratio cassette and that is one reason I've not dived into the big end of this pool.

For some reason, I like the 18 tooth. That is why I use the 12/25 with my 11. If they made a 11/25 in a 12 set up, I know one person in this world that would buy it.

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by AJS914

Even pros on Shimano ride 11-28 or 11-30 so if you ride a Campagnolo 11-29 you'll look PRO. :D


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