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Re: Campagnolo 12-Speed

Posted: Thu May 23, 2019 4:00 am
by Discodan
Sadly I go to the same link from Australia and it’s AUD 2,442 which is USD1,700. We always get the rough end of the stick here


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Re: Campagnolo 12-Speed

Posted: Thu May 23, 2019 4:00 am
by Weenie

Re: Campagnolo 12-Speed

Posted: Thu May 23, 2019 5:22 am
by flying
Discodan wrote:
Thu May 23, 2019 4:00 am
Sadly I go to the same link from Australia and it’s AUD 2,442 which is USD1,700. We always get the rough end of the stick here
:cry: That is terrible

Re: Campagnolo 12-Speed

Posted: Thu May 23, 2019 6:19 am
by Guevarca
Oddly if I click on the link from the UK, it’s £1429 so around USD1800 - weird!

Re: Campagnolo 12-Speed

Posted: Fri May 24, 2019 3:53 am
by moonoi
Guevarca wrote:
Thu May 23, 2019 6:19 am
Oddly if I click on the link from the UK, it’s £1429 so around USD1800 - weird!
Not weird at all, when shipping outside the EU, Merlin shows prices without VAT/GST added, that accounts for the difference you see.

Re: Campagnolo 12-Speed

Posted: Fri May 24, 2019 10:00 am
by Gunnar
Someones probably covered this allready but why does 2019 record have holes in the levers in some photos while in others they are totally smooth? seems very inconsistant and I even noticed this on campags wepage.

Re: Campagnolo 12-Speed

Posted: Fri May 24, 2019 10:28 am
by g00se
I think the disc levers have the hole and the rim brake levers don't.

Re: Campagnolo 12-Speed

Posted: Fri May 24, 2019 10:32 am
by gorkypl
I'm not sure which holes you are thinking about.
Disc shifters have one hole on each brake lever to adjust the reach. Mechanical brakes levers do not have these holes.
Super Record has additional holes for weight reduction (and the looks).

Re: Campagnolo 12-Speed

Posted: Fri May 24, 2019 9:05 pm
by KarlC
Campy Record 11 vs 12 brake clearance, its the same in my case, 12 is no better.

I was hoping Campy 12 brakes would give me more clearance on my F8 with Veloflex Vlaanderen 27mm tubulars, but they do not.

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Re: Campagnolo 12-Speed

Posted: Sat May 25, 2019 4:02 am
by ChiZ01
KarlC wrote:
Fri May 24, 2019 9:05 pm
Campy Record 11 vs 12 brake clearance, its the same in my case, 12 is no better.

I was hoping Campy 12 brakes would give me more clearance on my F8 with Veloflex Vlaanderen 27mm tubulars, but they do not.
the brake still has more clearance hence the brake pad is not all the way down, your limitation is the brake mounting spot

Re: Campagnolo 12-Speed

Posted: Sat May 25, 2019 4:07 am
by AJS914
In both the pictures, the brake isn't connected to the cable so it's hard to tell how much clearance you have either way.

I believe that Calnago has posted about having an extra mm of clearance with a non-series Campagnolo caliper.

https://glorycycles.com/blog/pinarello- ... e-issues-/

Re: Campagnolo 12-Speed

Posted: Sat May 25, 2019 5:28 am
by KarlC
For the non belivers, both brakes held closed on 28mm rim, of course you may have different results with another frame and tires.

Yes the bridge is a bit on the low side on the F8, but I do have a set of brakes that clear 27mm tubs fine . I was just hoping to keep it all Campy and I was hoping the 12s would provide more clearance than 11s but they dont, not in this case.

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Campagnolo 12-Speed

Posted: Sat May 25, 2019 6:05 am
by Calnago
I posted some time ago about the Chorus calipers having a bit more clearance than either Record or Super Record, but KarlC is correct. The newest Record/SR standard mount brakes actually have slightly less clearance than the prior version, when mounted in the same holes in the frame. It’s really dependent on the frame mounting position as to how much clearance will be available. If you want loads of clearance, and this goes for either Shimano or Campagnolo, then go disc. The calipers are certainly capable of clearing 28mm tires but the mounting position on the frame is also a variable and will really dictate how much clearance you ultimately have, so it’s possible you won’t clear 28’s depending on the frame they’re mounted on. I haven’t written in detail about it yet but I will.

Re: Campagnolo 12-Speed

Posted: Sat May 25, 2019 3:40 pm
by MyM3Coupe
flying wrote:
Thu May 23, 2019 3:02 am
Wow Merlin has the price for Record 12 mechanical groupset at $1,277.10 USD

Actually $1419 - 10% deal right now = $1,277.10
But pretty decent price
https://www.merlincycles.com/campagnolo ... 20859.html
Merlin is awesome. For us in the USA there’s no better online retailer.

Re: Campagnolo 12-Speed

Posted: Sat May 25, 2019 4:20 pm
by Alexandrumarian
KarlC wrote:
Sat May 25, 2019 5:28 am
For the non belivers,
I raised this point 11 months ago in this same thread. I used to be able to ( just barely) run Vlaanderen tubs, no more with the 12s brakes. Old ones were 2015 Record. So for me they had less clearance. I could dremel the arm a bit without weakening anything but at the same time I went back to smaller tubs (27 are nice and pillowy but I think I like the feel of 25 more) . The pad washers could be thinned by about 1mm, it might make a visible improvement too.

Re: Campagnolo 12-Speed

Posted: Sat May 25, 2019 4:20 pm
by Weenie

Re: Campagnolo 12-Speed

Posted: Sat May 25, 2019 6:09 pm
by flying
MyM3Coupe wrote:
Sat May 25, 2019 3:40 pm
flying wrote:
Thu May 23, 2019 3:02 am
Wow Merlin has the price for Record 12 mechanical groupset at $1,277.10 USD

Actually $1419 - 10% deal right now = $1,277.10
But pretty decent price
https://www.merlincycles.com/campagnolo ... 20859.html
Merlin is awesome. For us in the USA there’s no better online retailer.
Yes I got a Potenza group there for $632 delivery included 3 day UPS back in December

You just have to watch if your order is smaller their free shipping can mess up at times
& take many weeks when it goes thru TrakPak