Campagnolo 12-Speed

[bikeboy1tr]

Actually I always check the small small cogs and ring when fitting a chain and then look at big big to see if I need to be really careful or just a little careful when accidentally shifting up too far on the back but normally if I try to keep the chain on the long side and adjust the B screw enough that its not cathing the teeth on large cog and rattling as you shift into it.
I am finding 12sp Campy a real PITA when it comes to a choice of PM as I wanted the carbon Rotor ALDHU with oval rings but it doesnt look like its a good match from what I have read elsewhere on this forum. So I have a Campy P2M 12sp ordered and on the way. Its a little on the chunky side but guess I will have to spend the money on another component to make up for that weight. Its replacing my Record crank so it wont be a huge difference in weight. I have been looking at chainrings and I see AB is making one for the Campy 12 but in the past with my DA crank and AB the chainring gap was bigger than what my DA 11sp originally was so I found running the Rotor inner and AB outer closed the gap enough to match what I had with 11sp DA. Kind of hesitant to spend the money on AB and find the same issue. Not alot of selection out there at the moment for Campy 12 Rings or for anything due to Covid.

[christiancarr]

Thank you, it looks stunning, especially the crankset The only thing I´d change is the levers finish. The 3K carbon would be better.

I noticed the CULT ceramic bearings were completely dry. I know they are supposed to be, but few drops of Ceramicspeed TT grease can help them to last longer without any performance loss

You will be desapointed to see the Jockey wheels are Rollers... and not Bearings

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Does it cause any problems with shifting or performance?

[neeb]

Thank you, it looks stunning, especially the crankset The only thing I´d change is the levers finish. The 3K carbon would be better.

I noticed the CULT ceramic bearings were completely dry. I know they are supposed to be, but few drops of Ceramicspeed TT grease can help them to last longer without any performance loss

You will be desapointed to see the Jockey wheels are Rollers... and not Bearings

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Does it cause any problems with shifting or performance?

I would assume practically none. Friction differences between rollers and bearings in jockey wheels must be a tiny fraction of total drive train friction, nearly all of which comes from the chain itself (hence the trend for larger jockey-wheels to reduce chain bending).

[survivor]

I have a quick question about Campagnolo Super Record EPS 12 speed. Does the front derailleur has any limit screws? Is all adjustment done electronically?

[Bobbyc123]

I have a quick question about Campagnolo Super Record EPS 12 speed. Does the front derailleur has any limit screws? Is all adjustment done electronically?

Both limits are set electronic only.

[survivor]

Both limits are set electronic only.

Thanks! This is good to know.

[survivor]

For owners of Campagnolo Super Record EPS 12 speed, is there any motivation to move to the new Dura Ace 9200? If you haven't already owned the Campagnolo Super Record EPS, would you get the Dura Ace 9200 instead?

I have the new Dura Ace 9200 ordered and pending delivery, and needing to look for a frame. At the same time I found a full build with Campagnolo Super Record EPS 12 speed. Not sure which way should I go and would appreciate any suggestions.

[Butcher]

Is that true? The EPS11 has a limit screw so the derailleur does not get jambed into the spokes. It's more of an insurance policy since the electronics should prevent that.

I'm certain someone will correct me if I am wrong.

[survivor]

Is that true? The EPS11 has a limit screw so the derailleur does not get jambed into the spokes. It's more of an insurance policy since the electronics should prevent that.

I'm certain someone will correct me if I am wrong.

That is true for the rear derailleur. The question is on front derailleur.

[1llum4]

As an owner of SR12 mech gruppo, the only thing that interest me from DA/Ult 12s is the Hyperglide+ of the cassette and chain. Hopefully someone on this forum will measure accuratly the cog spacing to confirm if a mixed group could work.

[ultimobici]

Is that true? The EPS11 has a limit screw so the derailleur does not get jambed into the spokes. It's more of an insurance policy since the electronics should prevent that.

I'm certain someone will correct me if I am wrong.

That is true for the rear derailleur. The question is on front derailleur.

EPS front mechs have always had limits set electronically. Rear mech has a limit screw to stop the mech overshifting into the spokes.


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[Bobbyc123]

For owners of Campagnolo Super Record EPS 12 speed, is there any motivation to move to the new Dura Ace 9200? If you haven't already owned the Campagnolo Super Record EPS, would you get the Dura Ace 9200 instead?

I have the new Dura Ace 9200 ordered and pending delivery, and needing to look for a frame. At the same time I found a full build with Campagnolo Super Record EPS 12 speed. Not sure which way should I go and would appreciate any suggestions.

The videos and reviews I've seen for shimano look pretty tasty. The shift speeds looks like everything you want out of electronic and how they're saying you can shift under full load is awesome.

12s eps doesn't feel that different from 11s.

Come down to how much you prefer Campagnolo, if you're not bothered either way, I'd go shimano.

[Butcher]

Did I mention I can't read too.

[Remi67]

Hello everyone,

Does anyone know if it is pssible, or ever tried to install a 12sp rear mechanical derailleur cage on a 11sp rear mechanical derailleur ?

I wonder if it is possible... It would be a great alternative to me oversized a bit my derailleur cage. I hate the poor design of the original 11sp medium alloy cage

Thanks !

Rémi.

[micky]

For owners of Campagnolo Super Record EPS 12 speed, is there any motivation to move to the new Dura Ace 9200? If you haven't already owned the Campagnolo Super Record EPS, would you get the Dura Ace 9200 instead?

I have the new Dura Ace 9200 ordered and pending delivery, and needing to look for a frame. At the same time I found a full build with Campagnolo Super Record EPS 12 speed. Not sure which way should I go and would appreciate any suggestions.

I switched to SR EPS 12s after using the last 2 Dura ace Di2 groupset and wanted a change.
I can't talk about 9200, but with 9070 and 9150 you could switch rear wheels without problems while with EPS I need to adjust the rear mech each time.
It doesn't take ages but some practice to end up spot on.