I was able to get FAG 6805 bearings for Powertorque for the same price of the Campa Ultratorque bearings. Hence why I am asking if there's a way of getting bearings of that kind of quality. You're probably right that the price isn't too bad for what they offer, but I was wondering if there is a better solution.welchy wrote: ↑Thu Mar 10, 2022 12:18 pm
I'm just running standard campy bearings on my record 12, but ive replaced the DS bearings twice and non DS once, I feel the quality isn't the best, but the price is! At something like $30 a set rather than $120 for CUlT etc I don't mind changing them out, i'm using the eBay chinese (probably) UT tool and has worked brilliantly, better than speding $300 on the campy tool!
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Ok, this thread is super long, so please forgive me if my question has been asked 700 times already. What do I need to know about running a 12speed Chorus crank with 2015 11sp Record derailleurs and cassette on a 2011 BMC Team Machine? Do I run the 12 speed chain or 11 speed chain? How fiddly is the shifting to get sorted? Is this going to work ok? Thanks
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The shifting for the Campy 12sp mech FD is the most fiddly thing for setup but that being said this is not a worry for you dereksmalls. I would have np running the 12sp chain with your 12sp crank and 11sp shifters. The risk of running the 11sp chain with the 12sp crank could be constant scrubbing of the chain on the big ring when in the small ring and also the big ring teeth picking the chain when you are in the small front and small cogs rear(crosschain). The 12sp chain will shift quicker on the rear cogs which is nice and all you will need to do is set the min/max screws on the FD.
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Thanks. I'll need to dig out the 12 speed chain I've got in a box somewhere.
I saw today a proto Campagnolo groupset that is in the final stages of being tested.
I was told, and could see - 13 speed / wireless / updated brake calipers... and separate buttons like Shimanos sprint shifters !!
was still in aluminum so unsure of what the final finish will look like.
Should be a nice successor to the eps 12 speed.
I was told, and could see - 13 speed / wireless / updated brake calipers... and separate buttons like Shimanos sprint shifters !!
was still in aluminum so unsure of what the final finish will look like.
Should be a nice successor to the eps 12 speed.
There are rumours of a Campagnolo announcement at the end of April..... wether that relates to this or not, I don't know.caballero wrote: ↑Mon Mar 14, 2022 11:32 amI saw today a proto Campagnolo groupset that is in the final stages of being tested.
I was told, and could see - 13 speed / wireless / updated brake calipers... and separate buttons like Shimanos sprint shifters !!
was still in aluminum so unsure of what the final finish will look like.
Should be a nice successor to the eps 12 speed.
But.... I think this makes sense and will make a lot of people happy.....especially the wireless bit.
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This would be amazing for a new wireless 13 speed.
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In Campagnolo case wireless may make more sense than with Shimano (non-detachable cables), and I am curious about the updated callipers - will it mean even different version than in Ekar?
Overall I am not into electronic - especially wireless - shifting on my bikes (beacuse of philosophy, not money), but I guess they must have done this to keep up with the market.
Hydraulic braking will definitely welcome updates though, and if they can refine mechanical shifting while going to 13s, then it will be big.
Overall I am not into electronic - especially wireless - shifting on my bikes (beacuse of philosophy, not money), but I guess they must have done this to keep up with the market.
Hydraulic braking will definitely welcome updates though, and if they can refine mechanical shifting while going to 13s, then it will be big.
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Could you make out if it was fully wireless like SRAM or semi-wireless like Shimano? I hope it's the former and retains 12s mechanical's DM hanger compatiblity using RD-SR105. I also wonder if 13s will be EPS only? According to CeramicSpeed the take rates for EPS over mechanical meant that it wasn't enough to justify designing an OSPW for the latter.caballero wrote: ↑Mon Mar 14, 2022 11:32 amI saw today a proto Campagnolo groupset that is in the final stages of being tested.
I was told, and could see - 13 speed / wireless / updated brake calipers... and separate buttons like Shimanos sprint shifters !!
was still in aluminum so unsure of what the final finish will look like.
Should be a nice successor to the eps 12 speed.
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That could be the hopefully lower cost version which would probably have to be Aluminum to keep the cost down.caballero wrote: ↑Mon Mar 14, 2022 11:32 amI saw today a proto Campagnolo groupset that is in the final stages of being tested.
I was told, and could see - 13 speed / wireless / updated brake calipers... and separate buttons like Shimanos sprint shifters !!
was still in aluminum so unsure of what the final finish will look like.
Should be a nice successor to the eps 12 speed.
It's time for Campy to simplify. Super Record in Carbon - then Chorus (or Potenza) in Aluminum.