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JoO
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by JoO on Mon May 24, 2021 9:52 pm
usr wrote: ↑Mon May 24, 2021 4:29 pm
Dov wrote: ↑Sun May 23, 2021 7:54 am
Are there any better / cheaper alternatives to the Campagnolo brake cable set?
I'm running the highest level Jagwire inner to the rear after the TMS Campag broke at 12000 and I hope that shifting will get better again with the next replacement cycle back to TMS (I usually do a full replacement every second RD inner). Between TMS and Jagwire I was running regular Campag for a few rides and it felt bad enough to try the Jagwire instead. Could all be imagination of course, or bad setup and then once in the Jagwire I changed too many other things that also influence shifting (Sigeyi, Edco) so thatmy perception of relative quality is completely worthless now. But I do believe that I'm right about placing the Jagwire somewhere in between TMS Campag and conventional Campag.
I wonder how Ekar spare cables are distributed, this might be an acceptable middle ground between buying a full set of TMS when only the RD cable is approaching EOL and going third party or pre-12s Campag.
PS: looking at spare parts pdf, CG-RD703 for the smaller Ekar set. Google hasn't heard of it yet. Same for 10-CG-RD700, a box of ten inners (plus 36cm housing each, interesting compromise, looks like "keep the part wrapped at the bar, but at least replace the loop down at the RD which is easily done"). The Ekar set seems to come with full length housing, so it probably wouldn't be cheaper at all.
You can get ekar outer + inner for the bargain price of 70 EUR
https://www.bikebug.com/campagnolo-13s- ... rrule.html
I have tried the most expensive jawire inner cable (14 EUR) but the shifting was not better than original campagnolo 11 speed cable.
I do like the lifeline inner cables.
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okx
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gwerziou
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by gwerziou on Fri May 28, 2021 6:20 pm
I don't see why not.
• A hi-zoot bike, pretty sweet
• An old bike, more fun than the new one actually
• Unicycle, no brand name visible
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welchy
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by welchy on Sat May 29, 2021 8:26 pm
I can confirm today after my SR 12 chain snapped (gave it some stick out the saddle from slow and ping she went), and getting pushed to the LBS by my mates, the only chain available was shimano 12spd, on it went and it got me round my chaingang loop. Went out the saddle sprinting under load she skipped a fair bit, put it this way, I had no confidence getting out the saddle!
To note the rear cassette is about two months and 500 miles old so very much fresh to not be skipping! So it works, to get you about, but wouldn't recommend shimano 12.
Before anybody says anything new chain on order and it'll go on ASAP. The only reason I went shimano 12 is because it was the only available in the LBS.
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Kjetil
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Alexandrumarian
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by Alexandrumarian on Sun May 30, 2021 9:59 am
Kjetil wrote: ↑Sun May 30, 2021 9:43 am
Where did the chain snap?
Yeah curious too if it was at the pin. All tools i used so far, including the most exp park are crap at pressing the pin nicely. No chain snapped yet but every time i change one it is a sweat fest. I should have bought the campy tool from the beginning
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welchy
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by welchy on Sun May 30, 2021 11:32 am
I didn't have chance to study it as I lobbed it in the bin. But pretty sure it went at the pin, I'd used the proper campy tool all correctly but I had used a replacement pin in another place, so the chain was pinned in two places.. overall probably not the chains issue, but the wear and stretch on them with my tool has always been on the high side. I'm finding these chains need changing every 2000-3000kms. But, this last chain had 500km through winter so..
Overall it's more the comment that I wouldn't go for a shimano chain, campy is still the best in my view for campy.
EDIT: only chucked it in the bin at the LBS as I didn't fancy carrying it with me in my back pocket during the ride
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raggedtrousers
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by raggedtrousers on Sun Jun 06, 2021 5:22 pm
Has anyone definitely had success running a Rotor 11sp crankset/chainrings (round, not oval) with Chorus 12sp? I could do with moving to shorter cranks while I work round a hip issue, and Campag don't do cranks below 165mm. If anyone could advise, that would be appreciated.
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Perp
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by Perp on Sun Jun 06, 2021 6:15 pm
raggedtrousers wrote:Has anyone definitely had success running a Rotor 11sp crankset/chainrings (round, not oval) with Chorus 12sp? I could do with moving to shorter cranks while I work round a hip issue, and Campag don't do cranks below 165mm. If anyone could advise, that would be appreciated.
I emailed rotor about compatibility with campy 12. They said it's not compatible and you might get rubbing and not the best chain line
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raggedtrousers
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by raggedtrousers on Sun Jun 06, 2021 7:01 pm
Perp wrote: ↑Sun Jun 06, 2021 6:15 pm
raggedtrousers wrote:Has anyone definitely had success running a Rotor 11sp crankset/chainrings (round, not oval) with Chorus 12sp? I could do with moving to shorter cranks while I work round a hip issue, and Campag don't do cranks below 165mm. If anyone could advise, that would be appreciated.
I emailed rotor about compatibility with campy 12. They said it's not compatible and you might get rubbing and not the best chain line
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Thanks. Ok, anyone know any aftermarket cranksets than can work with Campag 12s?
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okx
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by okx on Sun Jun 06, 2021 7:28 pm
raggedtrousers wrote: ↑Sun Jun 06, 2021 5:22 pm
Has anyone definitely had success running a Rotor 11sp crankset/chainrings (round, not oval) with Chorus 12sp? I could do with moving to shorter cranks while I work round a hip issue, and Campag don't do cranks below 165mm. If anyone could advise, that would be appreciated.
I had same question here...
I have spent many hours trying to get working this setup.
It works, but not perfect.
Chain line difference between rotor aldhu3d crankset and campy is 1mm, you can add shims to get same chain line, but problem is that rotor has bigger spacing between sprockets. On Pinarello GAN disk frame I had best result with 0.5mm shim on right side. But eventually I switched to campy crankset.
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raggedtrousers
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by raggedtrousers on Sun Jun 06, 2021 7:39 pm
okx wrote: ↑Sun Jun 06, 2021 7:28 pm
I had same question here...
I have spent many hours trying to get working this setup.
It works, but not perfect.
Chain line difference between rotor aldhu3d crankset and campy is 1mm, you can add shims to get same chain line, but problem is that rotor has bigger spacing between sprockets. On Pinarello GAN disk frame I had best result with 0.5mm shim on right side. But eventually I switched to campy crankset.
Thanks, that's useful. When you say 'bigger spacings between sprockets' do you mean between chainrings?
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okx
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by okx on Sun Jun 06, 2021 8:21 pm
raggedtrousers wrote: ↑Sun Jun 06, 2021 7:39 pm
okx wrote: ↑Sun Jun 06, 2021 7:28 pm
I had same question here...
I have spent many hours trying to get working this setup.
It works, but not perfect.
Chain line difference between rotor aldhu3d crankset and campy is 1mm, you can add shims to get same chain line, but problem is that rotor has bigger spacing between sprockets. On Pinarello GAN disk frame I had best result with 0.5mm shim on right side. But eventually I switched to campy crankset.
Thanks, that's useful. When you say 'bigger spacings between sprockets' do you mean between chainrings?
sorry, yes - chainrings.
Doesn't look that it affects FD operations, except, that setting it up, takes a lot of time. With round chainrings should be more simple.