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4iiii Podium vs Stages L/R

Posted: Thu Feb 15, 2018 2:08 pm
by Delorre
Now both dual sides powermeters seems to be available to public, it's time for me to think about to 'upgrade' my 2 year old left side stage 9000 crank. As I didn't have any issue in maybe 30.000 km, I tend to go for the L/R 9100 stages. The added weight is around only 35gr (I saw a scale pic @ 664gr), but:

*I would like to get rit of the coin batteries
*You clearly see the drive side pod
*The blue Stages lettering is visible on both sides.

This leads me to the new 4iiii Podium :

*Completely invisible from the side with no lettering or visible pod
*Micro USB (but only 60 hours running time)
*Added weight unknown. Non-drive side only 'should be' + 9gr. Someone found the exact extra weight for both sides?

Any other thoughts on these units, or things I didn't mention but that could be relevant in the choise?

Re: 4iiii Podium vs Stages L/R

Posted: Thu Feb 15, 2018 6:25 pm
by saverin
Delorre wrote:
Thu Feb 15, 2018 2:08 pm
Now both dual sides powermeters seems to be available to public, it's time for me to think about to 'upgrade' my 2 year old left side stage 9000 crank. As I didn't have any issue in maybe 30.000 km, I tend to go for the L/R 9100 stages. The added weight is around only 35gr (I saw a scale pic @ 664gr), but:

*I would like to get rit of the coin batteries
*You clearly see the drive side pod
*The blue Stages lettering is visible on both sides.

This leads me to the new 4iiii Podium :

*Completely invisible from the side with no lettering or visible pod
*Micro USB (but only 60 hours running time)
*Added weight unknown. Non-drive side only 'should be' + 9gr. Someone found the exact extra weight for both sides?

Any other thoughts on these units, or things I didn't mention but that could be relevant in the choise?

Weight will be 16g for a dual sided Podiiiium (8g per side).

Re: 4iiii Podium vs Stages L/R

Posted: Thu Feb 15, 2018 6:25 pm
by Weenie

Re: 4iiii Podium vs Stages L/R

Posted: Thu Feb 15, 2018 8:41 pm
by Delorre
saverin wrote:
Thu Feb 15, 2018 6:25 pm
Delorre wrote:
Thu Feb 15, 2018 2:08 pm
Now both dual sides powermeters seems to be available to public, it's time for me to think about to 'upgrade' my 2 year old left side stage 9000 crank. As I didn't have any issue in maybe 30.000 km, I tend to go for the L/R 9100 stages. The added weight is around only 35gr (I saw a scale pic @ 664gr), but:

*I would like to get rit of the coin batteries
*You clearly see the drive side pod
*The blue Stages lettering is visible on both sides.

This leads me to the new 4iiii Podium :

*Completely invisible from the side with no lettering or visible pod
*Micro USB (but only 60 hours running time)
*Added weight unknown. Non-drive side only 'should be' + 9gr. Someone found the exact extra weight for both sides?

Any other thoughts on these units, or things I didn't mention but that could be relevant in the choise?

Weight will be 16g for a dual sided Podiiiium (8g per side).
Source ? But thx allready !

Re: 4iiii Podium vs Stages L/R

Posted: Fri Feb 16, 2018 12:24 am
by saverin
My source is very, very close to the company....

Re: 4iiii Podium vs Stages L/R

Posted: Fri Feb 16, 2018 3:02 am
by Cemicar
I wonder why 4iiii doesn't make the weight public, especially since it's incredible for being a dual side powermeter (oh wait, it's very light even among one-sides). It may totally justify such an ephemeral battery lifetime.

Re: 4iiii Podium vs Stages L/R

Posted: Sat Feb 17, 2018 3:31 am
by Conradsleight
saverin wrote:
Fri Feb 16, 2018 12:24 am
My source is very, very close to the company....
:lol: :lol: very true haha :wink: :wink:

Re: 4iiii Podium vs Stages L/R

Posted: Sat Feb 17, 2018 4:05 am
by TobinHatesYou
Looks like the Podiiiium has the one thing the old Precision was missing too...automatic temp compensation.

If only they made a SRAM Red option...yeah yeah...carbon bodied cranks are hard!

Re: 4iiii Podium vs Stages L/R

Posted: Wed May 30, 2018 6:41 am
by savechief
Dredging up a few months old thread, but 4iiii announced at Sea Otter that they now have Precision and Podiiiium power meters for several carbon cranks, including SRAM Red.

Re: 4iiii Podium vs Stages L/R

Posted: Wed May 30, 2018 7:56 am
by TobinHatesYou
savechief wrote:
Wed May 30, 2018 6:41 am
Dredging up a few months old thread, but 4iiii announced at Sea Otter that they now have Precision and Podiiiium power meters for several carbon cranks, including SRAM Red.
Dual-leg is still Shimano-only unless you count the two SRAM MTB cranksets. There's definitely no room behind the Red DS crank for the hidden version of the Podiiiium. Maybe they'll make a special housing that sits in one of the cutouts on the chainring at some point...

Re: 4iiii Podium vs Stages L/R

Posted: Mon Mar 18, 2019 12:50 am
by ninjanoir78
savechief wrote:Dredging up a few months old thread, but 4iiii announced at Sea Otter that they now have Precision and Podiiiium power meters for several carbon cranks, including SRAM Red.
Old thread but you mean sram red 22 etap? The one i have, I can't remove the spindle from the non drive side arm.

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Re: 4iiii Podium vs Stages L/R

Posted: Mon Mar 18, 2019 12:50 am
by Weenie

Re: 4iiii Podium vs Stages L/R

Posted: Mon Mar 18, 2019 3:00 am
by d36
I have a podium

Mine reads a few watts high
Battery actually lasts really long before needing a charge
Depite being smaller it rubs the chainstay on one of my frames (same frame fits stages & pioneer fine)
Signal is really good tho - hasnt dropped once