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Re: New cannondale SYSTEMSIX road frame!

Posted: Mon Jul 02, 2018 2:40 pm
by mrlobber
When you have a solidly working PM out for years as P2M does, I don't believe the raw unit manufacturing costs are that much anymore.

Re: New cannondale SYSTEMSIX road frame!

Posted: Mon Jul 02, 2018 2:40 pm
by Weenie

New cannondale SYSTEMSIX road frame!

Posted: Mon Jul 02, 2018 2:59 pm
by TonyM
P2M is a good powermeter! Not like the 4iiii that Spezialized is rebranding! To me this is a good move from Cannondale and P2M.

Re: New cannondale SYSTEMSIX road frame!

Posted: Mon Jul 02, 2018 3:09 pm
by ParisCarbon

Re: New cannondale SYSTEMSIX road frame!

Posted: Mon Jul 02, 2018 3:48 pm
by Datmo
7,8kg complete and 1100g for the frameset. But they say the 1kg weight penalty over a 6,8kg “climbing bike” only becomes apparent when you’re climbing gradients steeper than 6%.

Re: New cannondale SYSTEMSIX road frame!

Posted: Mon Jul 02, 2018 3:51 pm
by LionelB
Disc only. Pretty ugly too.

Re: New cannondale SYSTEMSIX road frame!

Posted: Mon Jul 02, 2018 4:14 pm
by morganb
The power meter thing is one of the worst imaginable marketing decisions and also and the most Cannondale thing that I have heard. How long until someone finds a work around?

Re: New cannondale SYSTEMSIX road frame!

Posted: Mon Jul 02, 2018 4:35 pm
by spartan
so you pay for the powermeter but you need to pony up extra 500usd to use WTF !!. ugly but accurate powermeter with crappy fsa chainrings.
ugly ugly 'annondale'. this bike will fail in marketplace.

Re: New cannondale SYSTEMSIX road frame!

Posted: Mon Jul 02, 2018 4:42 pm
by CraigKnobovitch
If anyone's curious as to specs, geometry, colours, and pricing of all models announced as of right now I made a topic regarding it.

Re: New cannondale SYSTEMSIX road frame!

Posted: Mon Jul 02, 2018 4:43 pm
by Monkeyfudger
That bulge on the headtube where a rim brake might go is ugly enough to make baby Jesus cry, I kinda hope there is a rim brake version just to make sense of how horrible it is...

Re: New cannondale SYSTEMSIX road frame!

Posted: Mon Jul 02, 2018 4:44 pm
by smartyiak
I'm undecided...but I do like the "no logo" look of the lowest tier bike:

Re: New cannondale SYSTEMSIX road frame!

Posted: Mon Jul 02, 2018 4:50 pm
by CraigKnobovitch
Monkeyfudger wrote:
Mon Jul 02, 2018 4:43 pm
That bulge on the headtube where a rim brake might go is ugly enough to make baby Jesus cry, I kinda hope there is a rim brake version just to make sense of how horrible it is...
Sadly it was designed specificly for disc brakes, no rim brake option planned

Re: New cannondale SYSTEMSIX road frame!

Posted: Mon Jul 02, 2018 4:51 pm
by CraigKnobovitch
smartyiak wrote:
Mon Jul 02, 2018 4:44 pm
I'm undecided...but I do like the "no logo" look of the lowest tier bike:
Agreed, it is very nice! I think there might be hidden branding that's just reflective. I know the top tier has it but not sure about other models

Re: New cannondale SYSTEMSIX road frame!

Posted: Mon Jul 02, 2018 5:05 pm
by darnellrm
NO WAY the frameset is 1100g.....

Re: New cannondale SYSTEMSIX road frame!

Posted: Mon Jul 02, 2018 5:18 pm
by taodemon
I surprised the annondale thing hasn't been fixed, all the bikes are up on the website like that.

Re: New cannondale SYSTEMSIX road frame!

Posted: Mon Jul 02, 2018 5:18 pm
by Weenie

Re: New cannondale SYSTEMSIX road frame!

Posted: Mon Jul 02, 2018 5:22 pm
by AndreLM
I think the 1100g figure was for the frame weight (size 56) including paint and hardware (seatpost collar, derailleur hanger, etc) but excluding fork.

I was hoping for much less than that... especially considering that the stem / bar seems to be also really heavy (and as ugly as it can possibly be).