New cannondale SYSTEMSIX road frame!

Discuss light weight issues concerning road bikes & parts.
mrlobber
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by mrlobber

When you have a solidly working PM out for years as P2M does, I don't believe the raw unit manufacturing costs are that much anymore.
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TonyM
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by TonyM

P2M is a good powermeter! Not like the 4iiii that Spezialized is rebranding! To me this is a good move from Cannondale and P2M.

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Datmo
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by Datmo

7,8kg complete and 1100g for the frameset. But they say the 1kg weight penalty over a 6,8kg “climbing bike” only becomes apparent when you’re climbing gradients steeper than 6%.
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LionelB
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by LionelB

Disc only. Pretty ugly too.

morganb
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by morganb

The power meter thing is one of the worst imaginable marketing decisions and also and the most Cannondale thing that I have heard. How long until someone finds a work around?

spartan
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by spartan

so you pay for the powermeter but you need to pony up extra 500usd to use WTF !!. ugly but accurate powermeter with crappy fsa chainrings.
ugly ugly 'annondale'. this bike will fail in marketplace.
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CraigKnobovitch
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by CraigKnobovitch

If anyone's curious as to specs, geometry, colours, and pricing of all models announced as of right now I made a topic regarding it.

Monkeyfudger
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by Monkeyfudger

That bulge on the headtube where a rim brake might go is ugly enough to make baby Jesus cry, I kinda hope there is a rim brake version just to make sense of how horrible it is...
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smartyiak
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by smartyiak

I'm undecided...but I do like the "no logo" look of the lowest tier bike:
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CraigKnobovitch
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by CraigKnobovitch

Monkeyfudger wrote:
Mon Jul 02, 2018 4:43 pm
That bulge on the headtube where a rim brake might go is ugly enough to make baby Jesus cry, I kinda hope there is a rim brake version just to make sense of how horrible it is...
Sadly it was designed specificly for disc brakes, no rim brake option planned

CraigKnobovitch
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by CraigKnobovitch

smartyiak wrote:
Mon Jul 02, 2018 4:44 pm
I'm undecided...but I do like the "no logo" look of the lowest tier bike:
Agreed, it is very nice! I think there might be hidden branding that's just reflective. I know the top tier has it but not sure about other models

darnellrm
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by darnellrm

NO WAY the frameset is 1100g.....

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taodemon
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by taodemon

I surprised the annondale thing hasn't been fixed, all the bikes are up on the website like that.

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AndreLM
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by AndreLM

I think the 1100g figure was for the frame weight (size 56) including paint and hardware (seatpost collar, derailleur hanger, etc) but excluding fork.

I was hoping for much less than that... especially considering that the stem / bar seems to be also really heavy (and as ugly as it can possibly be).




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