tour mag aero test 2018
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http://www.tour-magazin.de/raeder/rennr ... 45739.html
was able to get the some more data from images i found online.
* disc brakes penalty is minimal *
disc aero bikes
propel advanced sl disc with stock wheels(42f/65r) 209 watts. with zipp 404 disc wheelset 206 Watts !!! weight 7.4kg
specilized venge vias disc with stock wheels(roval clx64) 209 watts. weight 7.5 kg
merida reacto disc team-e with stock wheels(dt swiss prc 65) 210 watts weight 7.5 kg
caliper aero bikes
cervelo s5 with stock wheels (enve ses 4.5) 207 watts. weight 7.1 kg
madone 9.9 H2 with stock wheels(aeolus 5) 208 watts. weight 7 kg. please note aero penalty H1 vs H2 heatube !!
a straight out comparison between Dogma F10 vs F10 disc. the bike had zipp 303 vs zipp 303 disc
Dogma F10 disc 214 watts 7.5 kg
Dogma F10XL 213 watts 7 kg
ability to ride wider tires with superior rolling resistance the 1 watt diff is all but eliminated.
only issue with aero + disc is weight.
the lightest bike was trek emondal slr h2 721 gm as aero as a brick at 238 watts
new swork sl6 delivers on the aero 221 watts but light at 850gm
pinarello f10 is the KING of grand tour bikes class leading aero and great weight 881gm
was able to get the some more data from images i found online.
* disc brakes penalty is minimal *
disc aero bikes
propel advanced sl disc with stock wheels(42f/65r) 209 watts. with zipp 404 disc wheelset 206 Watts !!! weight 7.4kg
specilized venge vias disc with stock wheels(roval clx64) 209 watts. weight 7.5 kg
merida reacto disc team-e with stock wheels(dt swiss prc 65) 210 watts weight 7.5 kg
caliper aero bikes
cervelo s5 with stock wheels (enve ses 4.5) 207 watts. weight 7.1 kg
madone 9.9 H2 with stock wheels(aeolus 5) 208 watts. weight 7 kg. please note aero penalty H1 vs H2 heatube !!
a straight out comparison between Dogma F10 vs F10 disc. the bike had zipp 303 vs zipp 303 disc
Dogma F10 disc 214 watts 7.5 kg
Dogma F10XL 213 watts 7 kg
ability to ride wider tires with superior rolling resistance the 1 watt diff is all but eliminated.
only issue with aero + disc is weight.
the lightest bike was trek emondal slr h2 721 gm as aero as a brick at 238 watts
new swork sl6 delivers on the aero 221 watts but light at 850gm
pinarello f10 is the KING of grand tour bikes class leading aero and great weight 881gm
Last edited by spartan on Tue Jan 30, 2018 4:59 am, edited 1 time in total.
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Thanks for posting this, interesting to see the Merida out performed the Venge!
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So how do you interpret the 238 watts Emonda vs. the 208 watts Madonne?
Is it like your FTP is 30 watts higher, for example?
Is it like your FTP is 30 watts higher, for example?
Excellent, been waiting for these! Thanks spartan!
From a quick scan of the images, it looks like the Aeroad was king over a couple of courses?
@AJS. Those wattages will relate to the power needed to maintain a certain speed, usually 40km/h
New Tarmac looks well done, seems to square off nicely against the new R5.
From a quick scan of the images, it looks like the Aeroad was king over a couple of courses?
@AJS. Those wattages will relate to the power needed to maintain a certain speed, usually 40km/h
New Tarmac looks well done, seems to square off nicely against the new R5.
Last edited by Shrike on Tue Jan 30, 2018 9:20 am, edited 1 time in total.
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I love how they translate the raw data into the expected gains for a flat/hilly/mountain 100km ride. Does anyone know if they have done this in the past for "anything but aero" bicycles, for example a 10kg steel bike with 32mm tyres?
Tarmac vs R5 in Tour Test (both rim brake versions)
Frame + headset weight: 897g / 973g (size 56)
Aero 221W / 223W
Headtube stiffness: 105 / 123
Fork stiffness: 65 / 44
Seatpost comfort: 104 / 87 (lower is better)
BB stiffness 76 / 77
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Nice! I've just seen another thread where they were saying the Tarmac had a traditional handlebar v the R5's aerobar. Spesh have done some properly good work on that Tarmac
I wouldn't call R5's handlebar "aero", although it probably saves a watt or two versus a round bar.
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This is going to be hours of fun for me. Will digitise and reanalyse as Tour are terrible at analysing their data.
the way I see it is that you have to put out 30 watt less to maintain a given speed on the Madone (I don't know what the reference speed is, I believe it is 40 km/h)
But I could be wrong
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