Dirvetrain preference : Mechanical vs electronic
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Electronic isn't the future but present. I've been riding DA 9150 for over 2 years and the drivetrain requires absolutely no adjustment so far. And I've found it comical that the juice in the battey lasts longer than the chain. I still remember my long time mechanic told me that he doesn't like DI2 because he won't see mee for a long while.
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That's great but exactly the same as my mechanical gears once they were set up initially I don't need to do anything it just works. But what I don't have to think about is charging things up it's enough hassle with gadgets as it is without the extra thought that I can't ride my bike because I didn't plug it in to charge the battery! I've heard that reason for not riding a bike a few times!Shpox wrote: ↑Sun May 31, 2020 4:30 amUnlike many of you, I did not get the chance to feel the benefit of high end mechanical groupsets. I had 105, Ultegra and a mix of both over the years.
Eventually I went to di2 6870 and honestly, there's not much I'd change. It's perfect. Never skipped a beat. Occasional mis-shift but I think that's more to do with chain-wear than anything. I don't think I've EVER run out of battery and what's great is that I don't need to even think about it or bother adjusting it. It just works and I focus more anymore on riding.
If you can't remember to charge the batteries, then electronic shifting probably isn't for you. I don't find it to be a problem, and the time and energy I put into charging my gear is less than the time and and energy I spend doing any of the following:c60rider wrote: ↑Sun May 31, 2020 5:28 pmThat's great but exactly the same as my mechanical gears once they were set up initially I don't need to do anything it just works. But what I don't have to think about is charging things up it's enough hassle with gadgets as it is without the extra thought that I can't ride my bike because I didn't plug it in to charge the battery! I've heard that reason for not riding a bike a few times!
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I'm all mechanical but that's because I work with the bleeding edge of tech at work every day and now have a strong appreciation for mechanical systems. Way too many batteries and other tech to deal with. It's like comparing an Apple Watch with a gold band to a Patek Philippe. If I was racing, no question it would be electronic for superior performance.
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[/quote]Electronic is the future and for the most part better, . .
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Electronic shifting has been around for too many years to be the "future." It will have to coexist with mechanical for many years if not indefinitely. As long as some/many folks want lightweight, easy to maintain and fix road bikes mechanical will be there for them.
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Electronic shifting has been around for too many years to be the "future." It will have to coexist with mechanical for many years if not indefinitely. As long as some/many folks want lightweight, easy to maintain and fix road bikes mechanical will be there for them.
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Have both. Electronic is cool, but mechanical works fine too. No heavy preference for one or the other.
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I use mechanical because I would rather fix a cable than have to replace a battery or anything digital etc...I like the thought of not being reliant on batteries or power to change my gears etc, same thing when I hike, camp too, and also why I have a SON dynamo & Rohloff hub on my Mtb...
Electronic doesn't offer enough improvement for the price. I'm a Campy guy, but more than twice the price of Chorus 12, to go electronic isn't worth it to me, so I have two bikes with Chorus 12. Very happy with it and my rim brakes. I ride mountain descents frequently. I have all the braking power I need. No tubeless either. Over 7000 miles with no punctures.
Never broke a cable on a bike, ever.
Never broke a cable on a bike, ever.
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After breaking four shift cables last year, I went electronic and will never go back to mechanical, but that's just me.
I like the shifting of di2 but there is also the price in the balance...
The bike that I'm building now has a 9100 mechanical groupset because it's a very good value and I don't need more electronic on my bike. I have already the powermeter battery, and the Garmin battery to check. Mechanical can ride let's say 10000km with no maintenance except bearings, cleaning and greasing, chain replacement.
I prefer the top of the brand mechanical than a classic electronic with extra maintenance and extra weight.
However, this is for road...
For time trial, I expect a new bike soon, and I'll choose electronic thanks to the integration of shifters.
The bike that I'm building now has a 9100 mechanical groupset because it's a very good value and I don't need more electronic on my bike. I have already the powermeter battery, and the Garmin battery to check. Mechanical can ride let's say 10000km with no maintenance except bearings, cleaning and greasing, chain replacement.
I prefer the top of the brand mechanical than a classic electronic with extra maintenance and extra weight.
However, this is for road...
For time trial, I expect a new bike soon, and I'll choose electronic thanks to the integration of shifters.
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Technically, only two of them broke, the other two were worn out and got replaced before they actually broke. Rode 10k miles with over 600k ft of elevation last year, guess I shift a lot? Also, these were across three bikes. But the point is, I was absolutely sick of cable issues, either replacing, or adjusting, I was lucky to get a month without some type of issue. I'm already at 5k miles for this year, and as soon as I can go electronic on the gravel bike, I'll never have to worry about a cable again. Yes, it's more expensive, but absolutely worth it to me. Not to mention the Ultegra di2 shifter ergonomics are perfect, imo.
I sure hope not! 3500 miles so far on the di2 with no issues.
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250,000 miles? Impressive. As mentioned, only two of them actually broke while riding. Learned that Shimano cables wear out quickly and you have to keep a close eye on them, I was only getting about 3k miles out of a rear cable (I've only been riding about 18 months, still have plenty to learn). But don't have to worry about cable issues anymore, so no worries. I can be a bit of a clown sometimes, no doubt.