Madone Disc Spotted

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FIJIGabe
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by FIJIGabe

I asked previously, but didn't see a response: is the new new bar/stem combo backwards compatible with the Madone 9?
Madone 9 https://goo.gl/7UwZpV
Crockett https://goo.gl/f5PdCN
Madone 5 https://goo.gl/cMdyFo

Madone 4, Cobia. I own a lot of Treks.

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Madone SLR frameset available, disc and rim brake version same price, £3500.

https://www.harryhallcycles.co.uk/m8b0s ... mes-Racing

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by Brendan

spartan wrote:8.28kg so even if you replace wheels/saddle/groupset with light pedals the lightest it will get to around 17lbs . about 1 lb heavier than a top end venge.
is heavy super bikes the new normal in the disc era.
Trek lists the SLR 9 disc as 16.86 lbs, the SLR 8 as 16.2 lbs.

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FIJIGabe wrote:
Mon Jul 23, 2018 4:56 pm
I asked previously, but didn't see a response: is the new new bar/stem combo backwards compatible with the Madone 9?
Good question. I will check later this week for definitive answer for you, but my guess would be yes. Might have to do something different with the spacers if you use any as they are different from the previous 9 and interface with the head tube and bottom of stem differently, so now that I type this, it might actually be no without some modification. The channels in the steer tube are different as is the compression ring but won't make a difference.

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spartan wrote:dags madone slr 54 cm Bike weight: 7.86kg
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9HRhvIHUFG0

sagan 56cm Bike weight: 7.46kg
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rn6a5Wl4xGE
My mistake, quoting from memory. Not light for sure, but very fast.

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wheelbuilder wrote:
Tue Jul 24, 2018 3:08 am
FIJIGabe wrote:
Mon Jul 23, 2018 4:56 pm
I asked previously, but didn't see a response: is the new new bar/stem combo backwards compatible with the Madone 9?
Good question. I will check later this week for definitive answer for you, but my guess would be yes. Might have to do something different with the spacers if you use any as they are different from the previous 9 and interface with the head tube and bottom of stem differently, so now that I type this, it might actually be no without some modification. The channels in the steer tube are different as is the compression ring but won't make a difference.
Thanks for the reply. Although I don't really need it, I am always intrigued by the redesigns, to see what they kept and what was changed. Even something as simple as spacers, nowadays, makes a huge difference in fit an finish.
Madone 9 https://goo.gl/7UwZpV
Crockett https://goo.gl/f5PdCN
Madone 5 https://goo.gl/cMdyFo

Madone 4, Cobia. I own a lot of Treks.

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by anykarthik

EDIT -- I was wrong below. They are listed at 360g for the PAIR elsewhere. Nothing to see here.

The whitepaper has the left and right ST-R9170 shifters at 158g each.

Everywhere else, they are listed at 360g each. That's a healthy ~400g difference.

Which one is right? Did Trek understate the weight of the bike by a full POUND??

Cemicar
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by Cemicar

anykarthik wrote:
Tue Jul 24, 2018 9:19 pm
EDIT -- I was wrong below. They are listed at 360g for the PAIR elsewhere. Nothing to see here.
You're still a bit wrong. 360g per pair is old info. ST-R9170 is now listed as 160g per each.

https://bike.shimano.com/en-US/product/ ... 170-R.html
https://bike.shimano.com/en-US/product/ ... 170-L.html

SuperNonAero
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by SuperNonAero

Any reviews yet?
Anyone do a side grade from the rim brake to disc brake that has any thoughts on the bike?

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FIJIGabe wrote:
Tue Jul 24, 2018 2:06 pm
wheelbuilder wrote:
Tue Jul 24, 2018 3:08 am
FIJIGabe wrote:
Mon Jul 23, 2018 4:56 pm
I asked previously, but didn't see a response: is the new new bar/stem combo backwards compatible with the Madone 9?
Good question. I will check later this week for definitive answer for you, but my guess would be yes. Might have to do something different with the spacers if you use any as they are different from the previous 9 and interface with the head tube and bottom of stem differently, so now that I type this, it might actually be no without some modification. The channels in the steer tube are different as is the compression ring but won't make a difference.
Thanks for the reply. Although I don't really need it, I am always intrigued by the redesigns, to see what they kept and what was changed. Even something as simple as spacers, nowadays, makes a huge difference in fit an finish.
I've contact Trek Benelux and they confirmed the new stem and handlebar are compatible with the 'old' Madone.
Both will be available soon.

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wheelbuilder wrote:
Sat Jul 14, 2018 11:28 pm
100 percent change of tune. Good luck fella's. Disregard post about being easy. ImageImage

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Do you think you could fit another brands handlebar in the stem?
(as long as the cable run inside)

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Well, granted the diameter is probably a 31.8 so you could definitely mount another bar on it but at the same time, u'd need to drill at two spots, one for the lever/brake cable entry into the bars and one big ass hole right in the middle of the bars for the exit into the stem... Frankly, doing the latter would scare the living hell out of me on any other bar other than the OEM designed for this bike.
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by Stitchking

SuperNonAero wrote:Any reviews yet?
Anyone do a side grade from the rim brake to disc brake that has any thoughts on the bike?
Mine is still waiting for the longer seat post to show up. Due in about a fortnight, hopefully with my 38 bar and 120 stem too. Ill post photos and a decent review after my first proper few rides. Currently I've just been riding around the roads near my shop with flat pedals on and a seat height about 40mm too low for me.

Takes from that are that its got a very stiff bb area, very smooth ride, and it looks hot as *f##k*. Apart from that nothing to report.

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bruno2000 wrote:
Wed Aug 01, 2018 2:34 pm
Do you think you could fit another brands handlebar in the stem?
(as long as the cable run inside)
You might be able to use a PRO Vibe Carbon handlebar, as it has the exit in the center of the bars, but it seems like the port is relatively small, and probably can't handle the hydraulic lines. I'm sure that given a couple of months/years, we'll see more and more bars that will fit this system, but for now, I'd stick to the Bontrager bars.

Unfortunately, it seems as though Trek just trickled down the Madone 9's standard bar/stem combo to the new Madone SL6, so there's no aluminum version of the new bar. I guess it's carbon or nothing.
Madone 9 https://goo.gl/7UwZpV
Crockett https://goo.gl/f5PdCN
Madone 5 https://goo.gl/cMdyFo

Madone 4, Cobia. I own a lot of Treks.

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Stitchking wrote:
Thu Aug 02, 2018 9:17 am
SuperNonAero wrote:Any reviews yet?
Anyone do a side grade from the rim brake to disc brake that has any thoughts on the bike?
Mine is still waiting for the longer seat post to show up. Due in about a fortnight, hopefully with my 38 bar and 120 stem too. Ill post photos and a decent review after my first proper few rides. Currently I've just been riding around the roads near my shop with flat pedals on and a seat height about 40mm too low for me.

Takes from that are that its got a very stiff bb area, very smooth ride, and it looks hot as *f##k*. Apart from that nothing to report.

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Awesome. Looking forward to hearing more about it!

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