TheKaiser wrote: 573 wrote:
It's a tiny sample though.
I wonder if a wheel with steel spokes ever failed in a catastrophic way? Nope never.
True, all wheels can fail. It would be great to know failure rates vs. comparable steel spoked wheels, but unfortunately there isn't that level of data collection efficiency or industry transparency. One thing that is working against the R-sys from a PR standpoint, is that they look horrible when they fail. Shattered carbon is a lot less confidence inspiring than bent steel, at least to my eye. That, combined with the way that these stories present the failure, generally saying that the wheel "suddenly collapsed", gives the impression of a very poor failure mode vs. the experience most of us have had with steel spoked aluminium rimmed wheels. It could be that 99.999% of R-sys users are totally happy and find their wheels bombproof, but its really tough to tell from the info available.
I don't have millions friends using those wheels. maybe under 20-30.
but already watching 2 people involving acident by folded rim.
statistically it is over 10% failure for me, realistically.
and I saw several issues also.
tracomp spokes breaks, hub issues makes can't control rear wheel(fixed in recent instant 360 hub) etc...
AND I THINK, wheel should not fold like that unless huge crash or impact cause.
I hope to hear what Mavic says but they didn't respond so... you should be careful those who using it. that's all what I want to say.